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Old 09-20-2006, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by FR8Hauler
Ok "whaledriver" , it is easy to Monday morning quarterback. Have you ever flown a 481,500 lb airplane into Subic Bay before? I have and in the weather and even on a good day when the deck is stacked against you. So "f" you and your "good old-fashioned blunder, a screw-up" quote.

don't get excited fr8hauler..he is probably some embry-riddle student playing on this message board in between star trek reruns...
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Old 09-20-2006, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Whaledriver101
Captjns I'll tell ya whats up with the landing mishaps. Its called a "good old-fashioned blunder,a screw-up".
Hey Whalepoop ...

I know for a fact that FDX, ALPA, NTSB and Boeing are spending some major bucks analyzing mountains of data. Maybe you could hire yourself out as some sort of aviation consultant expert know-it-all and solve this problem. I'm sure all concerned will be happy to hear that you have found the cause of the accident for them.

Thanks for your insightful input anyway.

Regards ...

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Old 09-20-2006, 05:50 PM
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Is there a company safety initiative yet on these landing incidents? Or is it still below the radar?
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Old 09-20-2006, 06:24 PM
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HeavyDriver - Which airline would that be?

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Old 09-20-2006, 06:35 PM
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Heavydriver...

Where would that be? I don't claim to fly the hardest schedules but staying up all nite is hard in itself.

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Old 09-20-2006, 11:14 PM
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Lets just say it's a Supplemental Airline that takes your flying duty to the limit and then finds the gray area...I remember one flight where I saw the sun set, then rise to set again...Stayed on the aircraft as DH crew for another 8 hours, only to ride a van for 2 more hours to a hotel that my body only saw 6 hours in before my crew had to be at an airport for commercial travel back to the States for the next duty assignment...And of course coach seats back to the states on one of those not so service orientated US Airlines that Hubs from ATL...Now try doing that with 12 Flight Attendants in tow...And I have to add those 12 FA's have lost that customer friendly attitude towards the passenger and cockpit crew before I was born!...Oh did I add that one of the destination runways was 6000 long and less then 100 feet wide? At least my cell phone worked in that far away place so I could chew out my fleet manager for not terminating my employment a month earlier...lol.

I know we all have it tough flying in an industry that only the pilots seem to care about...The grass seems to always be greener "over there" and I bet there is someone out there with a worse schedule and pay then mine...I've had my resume's and Apps at all the "high pay'n gig's" with no luck...Who needs an experienced widebody international pilot these days anyway when you can have a college intern...But I do get to go home to a nicer world!...Cheers
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Old 09-21-2006, 04:17 AM
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Its ALL relative!!!!!


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Lets just say it's a Supplemental Airline that takes your flying duty to the limit and then finds the gray area...I remember one flight where I saw the sun set, then rise to set again...Stayed on the aircraft as DH crew for another 8 hours, only to ride a van for 2 more hours to a hotel that my body only saw 6 hours in before my crew had to be at an airport for commercial travel back to the States for the next duty assignment...And of course coach seats back to the states on one of those not so service orientated US Airlines that Hubs from ATL...Now try doing that with 12 Flight Attendants in tow...And I have to add those 12 FA's have lost that customer friendly attitude towards the passenger and cockpit crew before I was born!...Oh did I add that one of the destination runways was 6000 long and less then 100 feet wide? At least my cell phone worked in that far away place so I could chew out my fleet manager for not terminating my employment a month earlier...lol.

I know we all have it tough flying in an industry that only the pilots seem to care about...The grass seems to always be greener "over there" and I bet there is someone out there with a worse schedule and pay then mine...I've had my resume's and Apps at all the "high pay'n gig's" with no luck...Who needs an experienced widebody international pilot these days anyway when you can have a college intern...But I do get to go home to a nicer world!...Cheers
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Originally Posted by HeavyDriver
I remember one flight where I saw the sun set, then rise to set again...Stayed on the aircraft as DH crew for another 8 hours, only to ride a van for 2 more hours to a hotel that my body only saw 6 hours in before my crew had to be at an airport for commercial travel back to the States for the next duty assignment. Oh did I add that one of the destination runways was 6000 long and less then 100 feet wide?

Maybe you should try to get a job at an airline that has a union to protect you from that sort of hard schedule? Oh ... and landing on that 6000' runway, you are my hero! Maybe an aviation god?
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Old 09-21-2006, 04:46 AM
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Maybe you should try to get a job at an airline that has a union to protect you from that sort of hard schedule? Oh ... and landing on that 6000' runway, you are my hero! Maybe an aviation god?
Geez guys/gals....be easy on the dude.
He/she did say they were trying to get a better job.
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Old 09-21-2006, 09:38 AM
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Don't get into a ****ing contest with a supplemental pilot. Trust me on this. I did 24 hours straight in the right seat of a DC-10 once back at brand G. (Why didn't we stop? Our only chance was in Lagos.) Oh yeah, the pickup was at midnight. And yes, we eventually voted the union in.

Also, 6000 x 100 is impressive - just like we used to take MD-11's into Quito at night (9200' msl with big rocks on three sides).

I came away from supplemental flying with a great respect for what those guys do. Just like I am awed by the swiss watch that is FDX....
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