Dadof6

-1. The FDA LOA was "good enough" for those who bid it--those who also agreed to comply with its inherent requirements in exchange for specific compensations. There are no "favors" being done, just expected compliance with an agreement.

But I agree with Adler--there are undoubtedly many different "situations" involved.

DLax85

...many people asleep at the wheel long ago --- we never should have agreed to the 100NM restriction in LOA 1 back in 2007.

It didn't exist in Subic did it?

The company wants people living in domicile to increase their efficiency (yes...they pick up more Open Time/Draft trips, which lowers their FDA manning requirements)

The devil is always in the details gentlemen.

Nitefrater

In the job interview, they ask a Chief Pilot candidate what he thinks the job is. If he answers "Cover my men," he doesn't get the job.

highflyer

I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote that. Sorry.

skypine27

+1 and true.

MX727

What if the rest of the story is that She said "f-this place," grabbed his kids and went back to said northwestern state? How quick does the divorce have to go through? Nice of the company to pile on.

purpledog

In my dealings with the company ACPs they have bent over backwards to help out in situations at home. A little honesty and a phone call goes a long way. I've been let off trips due to inbound hurricanes, family emergencies etc... Now, for the hypothetical case of the single guy commuting back for a slice, the company needs to keep their nose out of his business. There are too many situations to paint with such a wide brush stroke. However we all know we have our "gamers" out there.

finedavefine

Thank you.

Unknown Rider

Then I would think they'd have nothing to worry about. If someone is doing the right thing, it will stand up to scrutiny. However, if that person never moved his family there and and commutes back stateside as soon as his trips are over, well then he might have something to worry about.

golfandfly

Most of us don't have all the facts. But, even though I never planned to bid either FDA, I read the LOA. I voted no, and voted no again.

That said, it is very clear. Either you live there or you don't. For a single guy with no kids, I don't see any problem having another house in the states. I don't see that as a violation of the agreement. He does not have dependents that are required to live there.

But for the married guy with kids, the LOA mandates them living there if you want the extra $$$. If your wife and kids live in the States and you have a rental in HKG, this isn't compliant with the LOA. It isn't difficult to find out what their situation. If my family wasn't living in HKG, I believe I'd take the company's amnesty offer and pay back the cash. That's just me though..

Maybe people will wake up and actually read these agreements before voting for them. It has always been a terrible deal. I never understood why I had to move my family to an FDA to get the extra money. Just renting an apartment and living there half the month is very expensive. The extra money just covers the cost of a nice crashpad and some living expenses.

You want to change it? No one bid the FDAs. It will get changed. Until then, we will have to live within the rules of the current LOA. It is specific and the company is enforcing the rules. If I were having to paying back the money, I'd bid out of HKG immediately.