FedEx Deviating from D/H
#21
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Cloud,
Welcome!
8.A.4.
a. Deadhead travel shall be booked in coach class unless a higher class of service is authorized.
b. A class of service higher than coach shall be authorized if:
i. a deadhead exceeds 5 scheduled block hours; or
ii. a deadhead is included in a single duty period exceeding 11:30; or
iii. the scheduled block hours of a revenue flight plus the scheduled block hours of a deadhead in a single duty period exceed 8 hours. However, if a domestic duty period does not exceed 11:30 and a deadhead within that duty period does not exceed 1:30 (OAG) block, the deadhead may be scheduled in coach.
I've used all three and are vary valuable for commuters! Just a couple of gotchas if being new to the game. Travel banks are specific to training and the line. So if you have a bank while on IOE, you can't use that money once you are released to the line. Also parking is limited to $100 a bid period regardless of how much you have in your bank. So if you go over, you eat it. If you are gonna go over and have the coin, get a livery service, or just do that from the start.
PC
Welcome!
8.A.4.
a. Deadhead travel shall be booked in coach class unless a higher class of service is authorized.
b. A class of service higher than coach shall be authorized if:
i. a deadhead exceeds 5 scheduled block hours; or
ii. a deadhead is included in a single duty period exceeding 11:30; or
iii. the scheduled block hours of a revenue flight plus the scheduled block hours of a deadhead in a single duty period exceed 8 hours. However, if a domestic duty period does not exceed 11:30 and a deadhead within that duty period does not exceed 1:30 (OAG) block, the deadhead may be scheduled in coach.
I've used all three and are vary valuable for commuters! Just a couple of gotchas if being new to the game. Travel banks are specific to training and the line. So if you have a bank while on IOE, you can't use that money once you are released to the line. Also parking is limited to $100 a bid period regardless of how much you have in your bank. So if you go over, you eat it. If you are gonna go over and have the coin, get a livery service, or just do that from the start.
PC
#22
That's true but it's got nothing to with booking FC this way. It's a bit worse actually - duty day. So the back end deadhead deviating on after a long duty day and going home after the operational leg - if CRS can't schedule it within the contract then they wouldn't allow us to do it. Company's openers - much worse.
#23
Cloud,
Welcome!
8.A.4.
a. Deadhead travel shall be booked in coach class unless a higher class of service is authorized.
b. A class of service higher than coach shall be authorized if:
i. a deadhead exceeds 5 scheduled block hours; or
ii. a deadhead is included in a single duty period exceeding 11:30; or
iii. the scheduled block hours of a revenue flight plus the scheduled block hours of a deadhead in a single duty period exceed 8 hours. However, if a domestic duty period does not exceed 11:30 and a deadhead within that duty period does not exceed 1:30 (OAG) block, the deadhead may be scheduled in coach.
I've used all three and are vary valuable for commuters! Just a couple of gotchas if being new to the game. Travel banks are specific to training and the line. So if you have a bank while on IOE, you can't use that money once you are released to the line. Also parking is limited to $100 a bid period regardless of how much you have in your bank. So if you go over, you eat it. If you are gonna go over and have the coin, get a livery service, or just do that from the start.
PC
Welcome!
8.A.4.
a. Deadhead travel shall be booked in coach class unless a higher class of service is authorized.
b. A class of service higher than coach shall be authorized if:
i. a deadhead exceeds 5 scheduled block hours; or
ii. a deadhead is included in a single duty period exceeding 11:30; or
iii. the scheduled block hours of a revenue flight plus the scheduled block hours of a deadhead in a single duty period exceed 8 hours. However, if a domestic duty period does not exceed 11:30 and a deadhead within that duty period does not exceed 1:30 (OAG) block, the deadhead may be scheduled in coach.
I've used all three and are vary valuable for commuters! Just a couple of gotchas if being new to the game. Travel banks are specific to training and the line. So if you have a bank while on IOE, you can't use that money once you are released to the line. Also parking is limited to $100 a bid period regardless of how much you have in your bank. So if you go over, you eat it. If you are gonna go over and have the coin, get a livery service, or just do that from the start.
PC
Appreciate the help and the welcome. Great to finally be here.
#24
Did not want to start a new thread so...
On a trip in Paris.. supposed to DH to HKG then operate home. I made the HUGE mistake of picking up the phone, I know I know, and lo and behold CRS. Revised to operate DXB LO, then Delhi LO then CDG and DH back. It's to replace a sick in the field.
I will get back almost 3 days late....Looked at the contract, sections 25 and 4. Looks like Disruption pay, extra duty pay, landing pay, added duty periods and layover change pay.
I have not had this happen before...can anyone think of anything else I should put in for?? And it's draft for the 2 1/2 days extra right? Thanks in advance...
On a trip in Paris.. supposed to DH to HKG then operate home. I made the HUGE mistake of picking up the phone, I know I know, and lo and behold CRS. Revised to operate DXB LO, then Delhi LO then CDG and DH back. It's to replace a sick in the field.
I will get back almost 3 days late....Looked at the contract, sections 25 and 4. Looks like Disruption pay, extra duty pay, landing pay, added duty periods and layover change pay.
I have not had this happen before...can anyone think of anything else I should put in for?? And it's draft for the 2 1/2 days extra right? Thanks in advance...
#25
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Did not want to start a new thread so...
On a trip in Paris.. supposed to DH to HKG then operate home. I made the HUGE mistake of picking up the phone, I know I know, and lo and behold CRS. Revised to operate DXB LO, then Delhi LO then CDG and DH back. It's to replace a sick in the field.
I will get back almost 3 days late....Looked at the contract, sections 25 and 4. Looks like Disruption pay, extra duty pay, landing pay, added duty periods and layover change pay.
I have not had this happen before...can anyone think of anything else I should put in for?? And it's draft for the 2 1/2 days extra right? Thanks in advance...
On a trip in Paris.. supposed to DH to HKG then operate home. I made the HUGE mistake of picking up the phone, I know I know, and lo and behold CRS. Revised to operate DXB LO, then Delhi LO then CDG and DH back. It's to replace a sick in the field.
I will get back almost 3 days late....Looked at the contract, sections 25 and 4. Looks like Disruption pay, extra duty pay, landing pay, added duty periods and layover change pay.
I have not had this happen before...can anyone think of anything else I should put in for?? And it's draft for the 2 1/2 days extra right? Thanks in advance...
CBA 4.W.3. Except for the disruption due to a deadhead at the end of a trip being revised to operate, as provided in Section 25.S.2.b.ii., a disruption(s) is not payable based on events that occurred during a duty period that qualifies for extra duty period pay, as provided in Section 4.Y.
CBA 4.Y.2. If a duty period qualifies for extra duty period pay, no disruptions, (except for the disruption due to a deadhead at the end of a trip being revised to operate, as provided in Section 25.S.2.b.ii.), are payable based on events that occurred during that duty period.
So, looks like extra duty periods pay at 3:30 each and draft.
Has anyone ever figured out how the company let the extra :30 slide in the contract on extra duty period pay? You don't suppose we pulled one over on them, do you?
Last edited by Busboy; 06-12-2011 at 08:28 AM.
#28
I couldn't find a direct answer to this in the contract...
Deviated from D/H and when I arrived at the pax carrier gate I am told, no seat available for me and 6 other pax, due to overbooked/oversold flight.
If the airline is looking for volunteers, can we choose to volunteer for the next flight and get the $ the airline offers for a future personal-use ticket?
Deviated from D/H and when I arrived at the pax carrier gate I am told, no seat available for me and 6 other pax, due to overbooked/oversold flight.
If the airline is looking for volunteers, can we choose to volunteer for the next flight and get the $ the airline offers for a future personal-use ticket?
#29
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Yes. You are still using the purchased ticket to fly. No different than if they offer you a meal voucher while waiting for the next flight.
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