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Old 04-16-2011, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Busboy
I'm holding out until we open a domicile in Albania. I'm not going until I'm making more than 99% of the population there!!
Start packing, you already are in top 1% of income for Albania, and for that matter the world. Based on 2003 data if you make more than $47,500, you are in the top 1% of income earners worldwide. If you make more than $850 A YEAR!... you are in the top 50%. Yes, for less than you can pay for a Starbucks coffee ($2.33 a day) that put's you in the top 50%. Something to keep in mind when we find ourselves complaining about our pay. Not that I don't think we should be making more, but I realize most of the world would think we were nuts complaining about money when we make 6 figures...
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Old 04-16-2011, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Fly FDX
Start packing, you already are in top 1% of income for Albania, and for that matter the world. Based on 2003 data if you make more than $47,500, you are in the top 1% of income earners worldwide. If you make more than $850 A YEAR!... you are in the top 50%. Yes, for less than you can pay for a Starbucks coffee ($2.33 a day) that put's you in the top 50%. Something to keep in mind when we find ourselves complaining about our pay. Not that I don't think we should be making more, but I realize most of the world would think we were nuts complaining about money when we make 6 figures...

Were you on the negotiating committee?
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Originally Posted by v1 uh-oh
Were you on the negotiating committee?
THAT was funny!
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Old 04-16-2011, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by v1 uh-oh
Were you on the negotiating committee?
No kidding, that was funny. No even though I understand where my income places me in the worldwide perspective, I also feel we are worth more than the TA reflected and did not support the TA...
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Old 04-16-2011, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Good Beer
Before the vote you guys were all worked up about how it was a slam dunk for FDA'ers, and everyone else is getting shafted. Now it is about what a crap deal the LOA is? Make up your mind.
Haven't voted for one FDA package yet --- IMHO all have been inadequate (..and that's from 13 years of experience living overseas).

In some ways, this TA may have been worse --- we accepted the latest FDA improvements as "significant" & gave mgmt the ability to open a new FDA in EMEA for a 1-2 year contract extenstion with 3% raises and no other fixes.

You can check all my posts ----- consistent across the board.

(Now, if one is already living in an FDA or about to bid it, then of course they feel the current benefits in the FDAs are sufficient, and any improvemets in the latest TA are even better --- so naturally they would have voted "Yes" on the latest TA)

Ultimately, I hope the FDAs work out for all the FDX pilots (..and their families) who bid it.

Living overseas is great!!

I would still like to see a more equitable package of benefits, but am concerned that we are reaching a "final product" with many FDA issues still unresolved (i.e. COLA, scope, reasonable family weight allowances, etc)

Once the FDA domiciles fill under this set of benefits, I am unsure of where our future leverage to make FDA improvements will come from.

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Old 04-17-2011, 07:22 AM
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So outside looking in [enviously], a couple questions

If I'm reading right, if you get based there you get normal pay with $3500/mo for housing? And up to $10k/yr for 2 kids for private school?

Ignorant here, but that doesn't seem all that bad. Could be better of course...what would you be looking for?

Have they actually sent anyone there yet?

Will they send new hires there? Or is that still TBD?

If you're retired mil pretty sure you can use the bx/commissery. I think hard booze was rationed, as was gas of course. But other than that all it took was an ID to buy stuff. There is a pretty big retiree community there and was always told Ktown was the largest US population center outside the US.

I had friends send their kids to the local German schools, the principal encouraged it and ensured they had the extra help required to get spun up. They didn't even hire tutors. And judging by the teen thugs hanging out at BX....I think I'd rather send mine to local public than DODDs.

I'm just fantasizing, hopefully in a couple years I'll get to look from the inside.
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Old 04-17-2011, 08:43 AM
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Working for Fedex is a dream come true. However it is a fortune 500 company that has a very nice compensation packages for their non pilot ex pats. The question isnt how little does it take to survive the question is what is just compensation for allowing the company to significantly reduce the number of pilots required while expanding their business in an already successfull market.
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Old 04-17-2011, 05:31 PM
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Hmmm...

10,050 Euro = $14,472 (1/1.44) per kid (per year, I am assuming....)

Looks like a bargain.
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Originally Posted by Good Beer
There is a COLA, $3500 per month is the Min housing allowance per month, it adjusts upward quarterly when the Dept of state foreign Max Per diem Rate (MPDR) goes up 10% (resets to the new MPDR). You did read the LOA right?

It just cracks me up that people think it isn't doable when an FO in the EMEA will be making more than 95% of the population there, and paying less tax's to boot.
We could go over and live comfortably as a Europeans. But with what we're used to as Americans? How many cars do you have? How large is your home? 3000 square feet? 4000? What activities are your kids involved with? How often do you eat at restaurants? This will be a LOT of compromise. Bring a LOT of disposable cash.
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Old 04-17-2011, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by K0H1K0
Hmmm...

10,050 Euro = $14,472 (1/1.44) per kid (per year, I am assuming....)

Looks like a bargain.
I can not believe FedEx would try to open a base where we needed to send our kids to private schools and then not pay for it. Disgusting.

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ca...-collapse.html

"The private school system is great....a little pricy but when they go to state colleges, it will be a price decrease."


Oh wait, they all ready did.
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