FDX- How would you bid if super junior?
04-12-2011, 07:05 AM
#32
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And what if the guy looking to come back is senior to some already there....??
Won't he have a seniority claim to that seat even if the company says we have too many 727 SOs...??
(...remember, "older" does not necessarily mean "more senior" --- especially with the profile of those that choose to work past 65. They are typically guys hired "later in life' at FEDEX that have not come close to maxing their years of service)
Looks like the company and the union may eventually have to agree on a specific policy to address such a senario.
Won't he have a seniority claim to that seat even if the company says we have too many 727 SOs...??
(...remember, "older" does not necessarily mean "more senior" --- especially with the profile of those that choose to work past 65. They are typically guys hired "later in life' at FEDEX that have not come close to maxing their years of service)
Looks like the company and the union may eventually have to agree on a specific policy to address such a senario.
The company will have to continue to let guys flow down to SO. It's past practice and they could face a lawsuit for not continuing the practice. Not a lawyer but seems like they would have grounds. Unless.....
You are junior to the other guys in the seat and the company starts holding excess bids for 727 SO. If you are involuntarily excessed out of 727 SO as an over 65 year old I think the company would try to force you to stop earning a paycheck. Someone told me this was not legal but I don't understand why. Can't find it in anywhere in the CBA that an excessed 727 SO has to be reawarded SO if they can't hold anything else.
04-12-2011, 06:52 PM
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If the company excesses out of the SO seat as the fleet shrinks are the over 65 guys that fall off the bottom considered retired or furloughed?
If they are legally "furloughed" I think they have to go to 4A2b first!
Maybe they will have to come to some agreement with us. Looks like this precedent of allowing guys to flow down without a vacancy bid is going to bite them hard.
If they are legally "furloughed" I think they have to go to 4A2b first!
Maybe they will have to come to some agreement with us. Looks like this precedent of allowing guys to flow down without a vacancy bid is going to bite them hard.
04-14-2011, 08:47 PM
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Here is how I see that going down in 2013 or 2014.
The company will have to continue to let guys flow down to SO. It's past practice and they could face a lawsuit for not continuing the practice. Not a lawyer but seems like they would have grounds. Unless.....
You are junior to the other guys in the seat and the company starts holding excess bids for 727 SO. If you are involuntarily excessed out of 727 SO as an over 65 year old I think the company would try to force you to stop earning a paycheck. Someone told me this was not legal but I don't understand why. Can't find it in anywhere in the CBA that an exces
sed 727 SO has to be reawarded SO if they can't hold anything else.
The company will have to continue to let guys flow down to SO. It's past practice and they could face a lawsuit for not continuing the practice. Not a lawyer but seems like they would have grounds. Unless.....
You are junior to the other guys in the seat and the company starts holding excess bids for 727 SO. If you are involuntarily excessed out of 727 SO as an over 65 year old I think the company would try to force you to stop earning a paycheck. Someone told me this was not legal but I don't understand why. Can't find it in anywhere in the CBA that an exces
sed 727 SO has to be reawarded SO if they can't hold anything else.
I can't believe a judge would say the company has to keep an excessive # of SOs while the jet is going away.
As long as it is done in seniority order, I can't see how those over 65 could argue it.
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