FDX-"O" speaks to FO class 4/6
#21
Movement - Purple Nuggets round 2
I just finished recurrent training. If you read the FCIF for posting 11-01 it says "we anticipate bidding the EMEA FDA (Posting 11-02) within a few weeks." Apparently the Hong Kong MD-11 domicile is on hold. I didn't follow how the 777 is affecting a Hong Kong MD-11 domicile, but apparently it's not happening anytime soon.
In practice bid one for posting 11-01 there are 44 (of 189) unfilled ANC MD-11 F/O positions and 67 unfilled MEM MD-11 F/O positions. If this holds in the actual bid that could mean over 100 wide body new hires in the MD-11/10 with descent seniority in ANC, plus whatever posting 11-02 opens up.
Of course everyone is so used to years of stagnation and when they realize they can hold a wide body they may change their bid. Waiting 12-18 months for another bid is a long time especially considering it may take another whole year to actually start training.
In practice bid one for posting 11-01 there are 44 (of 189) unfilled ANC MD-11 F/O positions and 67 unfilled MEM MD-11 F/O positions. If this holds in the actual bid that could mean over 100 wide body new hires in the MD-11/10 with descent seniority in ANC, plus whatever posting 11-02 opens up.
Of course everyone is so used to years of stagnation and when they realize they can hold a wide body they may change their bid. Waiting 12-18 months for another bid is a long time especially considering it may take another whole year to actually start training.
#22
I just finished recurrent training. If you read the FCIF for posting 11-01 it says "we anticipate bidding the EMEA FDA (Posting 11-02) within a few weeks." Apparently the Hong Kong MD-11 domicile is on hold. I didn't follow how the 777 is affecting a Hong Kong MD-11 domicile, but apparently it's not happening anytime soon.
In practice bid one for posting 11-01 there are 44 (of 189) unfilled ANC MD-11 F/O positions and 67 unfilled MEM MD-11 F/O positions. If this holds in the actual bid that could mean over 100 wide body new hires in the MD-11/10 with descent seniority in ANC, plus whatever posting 11-02 opens up.
Of course everyone is so used to years of stagnation and when they realize they can hold a wide body they may change their bid. Waiting 12-18 months for another bid is a long time especially considering it may take another whole year to actually start training.
In practice bid one for posting 11-01 there are 44 (of 189) unfilled ANC MD-11 F/O positions and 67 unfilled MEM MD-11 F/O positions. If this holds in the actual bid that could mean over 100 wide body new hires in the MD-11/10 with descent seniority in ANC, plus whatever posting 11-02 opens up.
Of course everyone is so used to years of stagnation and when they realize they can hold a wide body they may change their bid. Waiting 12-18 months for another bid is a long time especially considering it may take another whole year to actually start training.
I have yet to see a final bid that resembles any of the "practice" bids.
#24
Ok, OR came and spoke to the F/O class today. I'll try to recap...
("O", since I know you're reading this, if I mis-quote you, feel free to chime in and correct me)
Hiring:
-We are currently hiring externals. We do have a 'legacy' program, and they are currently being mixed in with the externals.
-500/year was a bad rumor. Shooting for 250/year, 500 for 2 years. Plan is to have classes of 20/month.
-Every recommendation is read/scrutinized
--Best is from guys you've flown with. Haven't flown with is okay, but not as good. Looking for flying ability/integrity.
-No difference in recommendation 'weight.' 777 captains rec. carries as much weight as new-hire, day 2 of indoc.
-I wrote down "2 slots to reapply." I can't remember if he said if you're turned down once, you get 1 re-apply, or two. It's definitely no more than 2. All personal information is de-identified for the second interview.
-Average numbers is 2.5-3K PIC, 4-5K TT. It's been about a 50/50 military/civilian mix (initial classes have been slightly more civilian due to the inability of military to get out at a moment's notice.)
Interview:
-Process should work like this:
--Get invited to come for tests.
---Tests are different than the ones we knew and loved. They are aviation based, and applicants are sent a list of recommended study material (I'm guessing ATP book/ASVAB kind of stuff)
--After tests, go home and wait 1-2 weeks for call to come back if you pass
--Come back to Memphis for Sim and Panel/SBI (1 day). Either Sim morning then SBI/panel in afternoon or vice versa.
---Sim is in the DC-10 right now (he didn't say it, we did)
--If you pass Day 2, you'll get a "Conditional Offer of Employment."
--With the Conditional Offer, you have to go get a Class I physical the next day with a FedEx approved doctor. (Basically he said, once your here, he encourages you to go to the easiest doctor you can find, but he has a responsibility to ensure that you have the ability to hold a Class I before we hire you).
--The medical is NOT Pass/Fail. If they find something, FedEx will work with you and the docs to try and get it resolved.
--Go home after the medical and wait while the PRIA/background checks are completed.
--30-45 days later, you should be in class.
--The timeline is compressed right now because of the hiring ramp-up, but expect close to these times in the future.
-SBI is back, and better than ever.
--It's in a cardboard 757, with a couple of TV screens and a fake GCP. You can dial altitudes/headings if you want.
Operations:
-More than anything else in the history of this company, the 777 is a game changer.
-Trying to snap up every 777 we can get our hands on.
-EMEA domicile should be announced in the next 2-3 weeks.
-EMEA will be a 757 base. Bus will still do SIBA. No plans for a Bus EMEA domicile.
-MD-11 HKG on hold. Won't see it "for a while."-The 767-400 (cargo version of USAF tanker)/777-200/A330 are all in play to be the domestic MD-10 replacement. MD-10-10 first, then eventually MD-10-30.
-Planning on about 157 757 fleet size.
-EVAS is being looked at. Along with the MD-11 cargo fire suppression system and the can bags we are trying to get a handle on the in-flight fire risks.
-Not all ACPs are being replaced by non-pilot managers. There will always be (while he's chief pilot) some pilots in the management chain of command. He said that they found that a lot of what the ACPs were doing administratively didn't need to be a pilot. He could use their piloting skills elsewhere. There will be 1-3 pilots still in the office there.
That's about it... I probably forgot some stuff, but there you go. Don't shoot the messenger (especially about the ACP's...)
("O", since I know you're reading this, if I mis-quote you, feel free to chime in and correct me)
Hiring:
-We are currently hiring externals. We do have a 'legacy' program, and they are currently being mixed in with the externals.
-500/year was a bad rumor. Shooting for 250/year, 500 for 2 years. Plan is to have classes of 20/month.
-Every recommendation is read/scrutinized
--Best is from guys you've flown with. Haven't flown with is okay, but not as good. Looking for flying ability/integrity.
-No difference in recommendation 'weight.' 777 captains rec. carries as much weight as new-hire, day 2 of indoc.
-I wrote down "2 slots to reapply." I can't remember if he said if you're turned down once, you get 1 re-apply, or two. It's definitely no more than 2. All personal information is de-identified for the second interview.
-Average numbers is 2.5-3K PIC, 4-5K TT. It's been about a 50/50 military/civilian mix (initial classes have been slightly more civilian due to the inability of military to get out at a moment's notice.)
Interview:
-Process should work like this:
--Get invited to come for tests.
---Tests are different than the ones we knew and loved. They are aviation based, and applicants are sent a list of recommended study material (I'm guessing ATP book/ASVAB kind of stuff)
--After tests, go home and wait 1-2 weeks for call to come back if you pass
--Come back to Memphis for Sim and Panel/SBI (1 day). Either Sim morning then SBI/panel in afternoon or vice versa.
---Sim is in the DC-10 right now (he didn't say it, we did)
--If you pass Day 2, you'll get a "Conditional Offer of Employment."
--With the Conditional Offer, you have to go get a Class I physical the next day with a FedEx approved doctor. (Basically he said, once your here, he encourages you to go to the easiest doctor you can find, but he has a responsibility to ensure that you have the ability to hold a Class I before we hire you).
--The medical is NOT Pass/Fail. If they find something, FedEx will work with you and the docs to try and get it resolved.
--Go home after the medical and wait while the PRIA/background checks are completed.
--30-45 days later, you should be in class.
--The timeline is compressed right now because of the hiring ramp-up, but expect close to these times in the future.
-SBI is back, and better than ever.
--It's in a cardboard 757, with a couple of TV screens and a fake GCP. You can dial altitudes/headings if you want.
Operations:
-More than anything else in the history of this company, the 777 is a game changer.
-Trying to snap up every 777 we can get our hands on.
-EMEA domicile should be announced in the next 2-3 weeks.
-EMEA will be a 757 base. Bus will still do SIBA. No plans for a Bus EMEA domicile.
-MD-11 HKG on hold. Won't see it "for a while."-The 767-400 (cargo version of USAF tanker)/777-200/A330 are all in play to be the domestic MD-10 replacement. MD-10-10 first, then eventually MD-10-30.
-Planning on about 157 757 fleet size.
-EVAS is being looked at. Along with the MD-11 cargo fire suppression system and the can bags we are trying to get a handle on the in-flight fire risks.
-Not all ACPs are being replaced by non-pilot managers. There will always be (while he's chief pilot) some pilots in the management chain of command. He said that they found that a lot of what the ACPs were doing administratively didn't need to be a pilot. He could use their piloting skills elsewhere. There will be 1-3 pilots still in the office there.
That's about it... I probably forgot some stuff, but there you go. Don't shoot the messenger (especially about the ACP's...)
#25
1. F/O: First Officer
2. PIC: Pilot In Command
3. TT: Total Time
4. ATP: Airline Transport Pilot
5. ASVAB: Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery (I'll admit, this one was tricky)
6. SBI: Situational Based Interview
7. DC: Douglas Corporation (i.e. DC-10)
8. Class I: Class 1 (one)
9. PRIA: Pilot Records Improvement Act (of 1996)
10. TV: television
11. GCP: Glareshield Control Panel (my apologies on this one, I'm talking MD-11 speak)
12. EMEA: Europe/Middle East/Africa
13. MD: McDonnell Douglas (i.e. MD-11)
14. USAF: United States Air Force
15. A: Airbus (i.e. A330)
16. EVAS: Emergency Vision Assurance System (I'll give you this one)
17. ACP: Assistant Chief Pilot
Ok... which 8-1/2 of these didn't you understand?
P.S. I'll USMC it up for you guys next time.
P.P.S. USMC: United States Marine Corps
P.P.P.S. Management! Now, I'm insulted!
P.S.: Post Script
Last edited by Sluggo_63; 04-07-2011 at 03:00 PM. Reason: Busboy
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For the most part they are. Currently the biggest difference is whether it has ACARS. But when the aircraft goes through C check they put ACARS on it. We're starting to get Pratts now so we'll have Rolls Royce and Pratt Whitney.
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