Atlas
05-03-2011, 01:39 AM
#101
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Joined APC: Jul 2005
Position: 777
Posts: 358
Just sayin.....it happens, conspiracies and all that.
05-03-2011, 05:13 AM
#102
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Joined APC: May 2010
Position: B767 CA
Posts: 1,100
Yes, it does happen. We sure know about it too...Atlas' alter-ego in Europe.
I just choose to live in a glass-half-full sort of way...spent too many years looking at an empty glass.
Time to move on...
I just choose to live in a glass-half-full sort of way...spent too many years looking at an empty glass.
Time to move on...
05-03-2011, 07:51 PM
#104
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: 747
Posts: 1,290
05-04-2011, 03:55 PM
#105
New Hire
Joined APC: Mar 2011
Posts: 9
i am far from a 2%..and yes we have alot of them...but do us a favor and quit thinking youre doing us a favor....its *******s like you that keep all this YOU versus US crap going, get over it, youre not that special....i bet youre the same guys who ***** on the 1224 website,,why do polar guys get to bid the 76,,blah blah blah,,,quit your *****ing and lets move the hell on.....quit filling the newbies and potential newbies, heads that its all polar,,,,cause its not..both sides have, so called 2%...all i mentioned was 3 section that havent been ta`d and all of a sudden you guys come out of the wood work with this crap...take a look in the mirror, maybe youre one of the 2%......
05-04-2011, 04:31 PM
#106
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: 747RJ
Posts: 441
i am far from a 2%..and yes we have alot of them...but do us a favor and quit thinking youre doing us a favor....its *******s like you that keep all this YOU versus US crap going, get over it, youre not that special....i bet youre the same guys who ***** on the 1224 website,,why do polar guys get to bid the 76,,blah blah blah,,,quit your *****ing and lets move the hell on.....quit filling the newbies and potential newbies, heads that its all polar,,,,cause its not..both sides have, so called 2%...all i mentioned was 3 section that havent been ta`d and all of a sudden you guys come out of the wood work with this crap...take a look in the mirror, maybe youre one of the 2%......
Don't worry, I'll tell you the same thing at work too. The heads in Purchase moved the cheese. It's been that way for 10 years.
I haven't seen this dude post anything obtuse (not like the toolbag that was on pprune), just seems like he wants to help people that wanna work here.
05-04-2011, 06:38 PM
#107
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: 747
Posts: 1,290
i am far from a 2%..and yes we have alot of them...but do us a favor and quit thinking youre doing us a favor....its *******s like you that keep all this YOU versus US crap going, get over it, youre not that special....i bet youre the same guys who ***** on the 1224 website,,why do polar guys get to bid the 76,,blah blah blah,,,quit your *****ing and lets move the hell on.....quit filling the newbies and potential newbies, heads that its all polar,,,,cause its not..both sides have, so called 2%...all i mentioned was 3 section that havent been ta`d and all of a sudden you guys come out of the wood work with this crap...take a look in the mirror, maybe youre one of the 2%......
In the 150 + pages in the APC Atlas hiring thread and the 10+ pages here, your first couple of posts come out and I just hadn't heard such strong and negative language. Your tone seemed to me to be much more "forceful" and laced with stars (the ***** stuff) that I felt that you were negatively biased towards the Atlas pilots, the Atlas/Polar merger, the contract, and posters on these boards who seem to want to help out aspiring new hires, that I ASSUMED that you were not such a great guy.
My Bad. Clearly you're a smart guy and a great pilot to fly with.
I have never seen on any of these APC Atlas threads ANY animosity between the Polar and the Atlas guys. In fact, from outside appearances only, this merger is so far away from the poison of the AW/USA merger, the AT/SWA, or even the NW/DAL relationships that it has been a pleasant surprise. I'm sure there are differences, but whatever negative points there may be with an Atlas/Polar merger, there are significant gains on both sides and a much brighter outlook than almost every other airline out there - especially from the point of view of a pilot who is so near TOD of his flying career.
You are also very correct that I am not that special. I am not a 1224 basher because I have absolutely no history with them. I can't post on the 1224 website. I am not even an Atlas pilot. In fact, until today, I was just a lowly poolie at Atlas. However, today I got a call with an invitation to a 747-400 class at Atlas on May, 30 and I couldn't be more psyched about it.
After being furloughed from a 15 year career at Astar Air Cargo, I can assure you that I have seen more catastrophic, stupid, antagonistic, caustic, and spiteful decisions by airline management than I want to remember. These managerial actions came at such a time and in such a manner that at least three of my colleagues actually committed suicide over their despair. You are obviously mad about some things and really worried about others, but your overlord's treatment of your pilot group has yet to cause any of your buddies to stick a gun in their mouth.
The grass on the other side of the fence can always be blacker, so I think I can see well beyond your nightmares.
But, I have chosen to not carry the poison of that history in my blood. I have my health, a beautiful family, and now, a job that, to me looks pretty freakin' good. So I'm not a 2%er, either. I like flying. If I see union crap I don't like, I try to work with the system to fix it - if not this time, maybe next. And I like the potential I see with my new job.
So, I'll see you in the cockpit someday and since you'll be senior to me, I'll let you buy me a foreign beer somewhere over there and we can solve these issues once and for all.
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05-04-2011, 07:28 PM
#108
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: 747RJ
Posts: 441
05-04-2011, 08:04 PM
#109
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Joined APC: May 2010
Position: B767 CA
Posts: 1,100
Well, let's start off with "I'm sorry I called you a 2%er."
In the 150 + pages in the APC Atlas hiring thread and the 10+ pages here, your first couple of posts come out and I just hadn't heard such strong and negative language. Your tone seemed to me to be much more "forceful" and laced with stars (the ***** stuff) that I felt that you were negatively biased towards the Atlas pilots, the Atlas/Polar merger, the contract, and posters on these boards who seem to want to help out aspiring new hires, that I ASSUMED that you were not such a great guy.
My Bad. Clearly you're a smart guy and a great pilot to fly with.
I have never seen on any of these APC Atlas threads ANY animosity between the Polar and the Atlas guys. In fact, from outside appearances only, this merger is so far away from the poison of the AW/USA merger, the AT/SWA, or even the NW/DAL relationships that it has been a pleasant surprise. I'm sure there are differences, but whatever negative points there may be with an Atlas/Polar merger, there are significant gains on both sides and a much brighter outlook than almost every other airline out there - especially from the point of view of a pilot who is so near TOD of his flying career.
You are also very correct that I am not that special. I am not a 1224 basher because I have absolutely no history with them. I can't post on the 1224 website. I am not even an Atlas pilot. In fact, until today, I was just a lowly poolie at Atlas. However, today I got a call with an invitation to a 747-400 class at Atlas on May, 30 and I couldn't be more psyched about it.
After being furloughed from a 15 year career at Astar Air Cargo, I can assure you that I have seen more catastrophic, stupid, antagonistic, caustic, and spiteful decisions by airline management than I want to remember. These managerial actions came at such a time and in such a manner that at least three of my colleagues actually committed suicide over their despair. You are obviously mad about some things and really worried about others, but your overlord's treatment of your pilot group has yet to cause any of your buddies to stick a gun in their mouth.
The grass on the other side of the fence can always be blacker, so I think I can see well beyond your nightmares.
But, I have chosen to not carry the poison of that history in my blood. I have my health, a beautiful family, and now, a job that, to me looks pretty freakin' good. So I'm not a 2%er, either. I like flying. If I see union crap I don't like, I try to work with the system to fix it - if not this time, maybe next. And I like the potential I see with my new job.
So, I'll see you in the cockpit someday and since you'll be senior to me, I'll let you buy me a foreign beer somewhere over there and we can solve these issues once and for all.
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In the 150 + pages in the APC Atlas hiring thread and the 10+ pages here, your first couple of posts come out and I just hadn't heard such strong and negative language. Your tone seemed to me to be much more "forceful" and laced with stars (the ***** stuff) that I felt that you were negatively biased towards the Atlas pilots, the Atlas/Polar merger, the contract, and posters on these boards who seem to want to help out aspiring new hires, that I ASSUMED that you were not such a great guy.
My Bad. Clearly you're a smart guy and a great pilot to fly with.
I have never seen on any of these APC Atlas threads ANY animosity between the Polar and the Atlas guys. In fact, from outside appearances only, this merger is so far away from the poison of the AW/USA merger, the AT/SWA, or even the NW/DAL relationships that it has been a pleasant surprise. I'm sure there are differences, but whatever negative points there may be with an Atlas/Polar merger, there are significant gains on both sides and a much brighter outlook than almost every other airline out there - especially from the point of view of a pilot who is so near TOD of his flying career.
You are also very correct that I am not that special. I am not a 1224 basher because I have absolutely no history with them. I can't post on the 1224 website. I am not even an Atlas pilot. In fact, until today, I was just a lowly poolie at Atlas. However, today I got a call with an invitation to a 747-400 class at Atlas on May, 30 and I couldn't be more psyched about it.
After being furloughed from a 15 year career at Astar Air Cargo, I can assure you that I have seen more catastrophic, stupid, antagonistic, caustic, and spiteful decisions by airline management than I want to remember. These managerial actions came at such a time and in such a manner that at least three of my colleagues actually committed suicide over their despair. You are obviously mad about some things and really worried about others, but your overlord's treatment of your pilot group has yet to cause any of your buddies to stick a gun in their mouth.
The grass on the other side of the fence can always be blacker, so I think I can see well beyond your nightmares.
But, I have chosen to not carry the poison of that history in my blood. I have my health, a beautiful family, and now, a job that, to me looks pretty freakin' good. So I'm not a 2%er, either. I like flying. If I see union crap I don't like, I try to work with the system to fix it - if not this time, maybe next. And I like the potential I see with my new job.
So, I'll see you in the cockpit someday and since you'll be senior to me, I'll let you buy me a foreign beer somewhere over there and we can solve these issues once and for all.
8
And I might even see you in MIA as my recurrent is now scheduled for first week in July...and trust me, you'll still be there, and still swimming. But this time in a sea of study materials.
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