FedEx TA and Right to Work changes
03-13-2011, 07:09 AM
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I'm sure all of those things were players as well. But most corporations pay little in taxes due to the many loopholes. Exxon is a great example of this and despite record profit paid zero tax. I'm been to China and they definitley don't have any real environmental policies or lawyers to represent their workers. Perhaps that's the vision you have for America. Just like all those UAW jobs that once paid 80 to 90k Bubba and Billy Bob now do for 50 k and you think that's something to brag about. You must be a VP at FedEx because I don't understand why a hourly worker would brag about depression of wages. Perhaps we can get rid of our union so we too can make 40% less.
03-13-2011, 09:07 AM
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What you are ignoring it is not the 90K Hank and Ralph got for building a Nova (after a six pack lunch). It was the $5K penalty in life-time bennies government motors had to tack on to the cost of the nova that cost Hank his job. And Bubba gets the same wage as Ralph to build Tundra in TX or a bimmer in Greenville; but unlike Ralph he has to earn his money or they will hire Paco or Dewayne to take his place.
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03-13-2011, 09:16 AM
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Lol...yes and the profits from from building cars in Tx and SC go to Japan and Germany while you criticize the American car industry. Funny thing, those pro-business, low wage polices in both TX and SC have done little to fix their massive state budget deficits. And they have no unions to scapegoat for their fiscal irresponsibilty.
You know not what you speak if you think TX has a massive budget deficit. Texas runs a balanced budget. They will spend less next year then this year because Obama is not authorized to borrow money from my grandkids to payoff public unions with stimulis graft next year. I guarantee revenues in Texas this year will grow at a faster rate than revenues in Michigan even with their Republican governor.
I did not criticize the American car industry. I am critical of the UAW killing the golden goose to the extent ford chrystler and GM allowed them to I guess they do deserve criticism..
03-13-2011, 09:46 AM
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03-13-2011, 09:49 AM
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You know not what you speak if you think TX has a massive budget deficit. Texas runs a balanced budget. They will spend less next year then this year because Obama is not authorized to borrow money from my grandkids to payoff public unions with stimulis graft next year. I guarantee revenues in Texas this year will grow at a faster rate than revenues in Michigan even with their Republican governor.
I did not criticize the American car industry. I am critical of the UAW killing the golden goose to the extent ford chrystler and GM allowed them to I guess they do deserve criticism..
I did not criticize the American car industry. I am critical of the UAW killing the golden goose to the extent ford chrystler and GM allowed them to I guess they do deserve criticism..
Texas comptroller says cuts will not solve deficit | AP Texas News | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle
Does damn facts getting in the way of a good argument again.
03-13-2011, 09:55 AM
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And the point is they have to cut because the washington stimulus spout dried up. Just like in WI. In TX they will deal with it by cutting spending particularly where the federal goobermint stop stimulating. Now compare their "defiicit" to the unfunded liabilities of the california pension system.
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03-13-2011, 09:56 AM
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So let me understand your position Fdxlag, you feel very strongly that our union, ALPA, should negotiate for all the wants and needs of our pilot group, but at the same time you're critical of the UAW for doing the exact same thing for their constituents? Am I mis-interpreting your post? Let's face it, it wasn't only the UAW that "killed the goose", because it was the auto companies themselves, in large part, that allowed it to happen. And just so that we're clear, I'm not talking only about salary and benefits. It was the way in which they did their business, as well as the poor quality control of their product, as well as their inability to correctly identify what their target market wanted or needed.
That said, a case can then be made for how and why our company negotiates with us, in the way that they do. Perhaps they don't want their product to go the way of the Ford Falcon or the Plymouth Fury, or the Pontiac GTO. Thankfully, our management is much more in tune to what the public wants and needs, and the company needs a stable pilot force, so that they can market our product, knowing that our clients packages will absolutely, positively get there on time, because unlike other types of businesses, if their package doesn't get there on time, then we carried it for free. I believe that therein lies our true leverage.
JJ
That said, a case can then be made for how and why our company negotiates with us, in the way that they do. Perhaps they don't want their product to go the way of the Ford Falcon or the Plymouth Fury, or the Pontiac GTO. Thankfully, our management is much more in tune to what the public wants and needs, and the company needs a stable pilot force, so that they can market our product, knowing that our clients packages will absolutely, positively get there on time, because unlike other types of businesses, if their package doesn't get there on time, then we carried it for free. I believe that therein lies our true leverage.
JJ
03-13-2011, 09:57 AM
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You know not what you speak if you think TX has a massive budget deficit. Texas runs a balanced budget. They will spend less next year then this year because Obama is not authorized to borrow money from my grandkids to payoff public unions with stimulis graft next year. I guarantee revenues in Texas this year will grow at a faster rate than revenues in Michigan even with their Republican governor.
I did not criticize the American car industry. I am critical of the UAW killing the golden goose to the extent ford chrystler and GM allowed them to I guess they do deserve criticism..
I did not criticize the American car industry. I am critical of the UAW killing the golden goose to the extent ford chrystler and GM allowed them to I guess they do deserve criticism..
Feel free to educate yourself on all the states.
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03-13-2011, 10:03 AM
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So let me understand your position Fdxlag, you feel very strongly that our union, ALPA, should negotiate for all the wants and needs of our pilot group, but at the same time you're critical of the UAW for doing the exact same thing for their constituents? Am I mis-interpreting your post? Let's face it, it wasn't only the UAW that "killed the goose", because it was the auto companies themselves, in large part, that allowed it to happen. And just so that we're clear, I'm not talking only about salary and benefits. It was the way in which they did their business, as well as the poor quality control of their product, as well as their inability to correctly identify what their target market wanted or needed.
That said, a case can then be made for how and why our company negotiates with us, in the way that they do. Perhaps they don't want their product to go the way of the Ford Falcon or the Plymouth Fury, or the Pontiac GTO. Thankfully, our management is much more in tune to what the public wants and needs, and the company needs a stable pilot force, so that they can market our product, knowing that our clients packages will absolutely, positively get there on time, because unlike other types of businesses, if their package doesn't get there on time, then we carried it for free. I believe that therein lies our true leverage.
JJ
That said, a case can then be made for how and why our company negotiates with us, in the way that they do. Perhaps they don't want their product to go the way of the Ford Falcon or the Plymouth Fury, or the Pontiac GTO. Thankfully, our management is much more in tune to what the public wants and needs, and the company needs a stable pilot force, so that they can market our product, knowing that our clients packages will absolutely, positively get there on time, because unlike other types of businesses, if their package doesn't get there on time, then we carried it for free. I believe that therein lies our true leverage.
JJ
And it is hard to build a decent Nova to compete with a camry when there is a $5K penalty on the Nova to start. That will affect quality, safety, reliability, and appeal of the nova. That is why the Camry won the battle.
03-13-2011, 10:08 AM
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BTW Michigan's budget deficit is $1.3 billion 6% gap. Texas gap is 31% and SC is 17%
Feel free to educate yourself on all the states.
States Continue to Feel Recession?s Impact — Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
Feel free to educate yourself on all the states.
States Continue to Feel Recession?s Impact — Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
You are not comparing Apples to Apples. Show me michigans retirement system unfunded liabiites. The Texas budget will be balanced. Is the $10 billion tX has in their rainy day fund included in your percentages??
