Pragmatic1

Government workers are American tax payers. They don't organize against anything. Like you and I they organize in support of the members in their profession to secure benefits and maintain a standard of living.

FDX1

"Only 5 states do not have collective bargaining for teachers. Those states and their ranking on ACT/SAT scores are as follows:
South Carolina - 50th
North Carolina - 49th
Georgia - 48th
Texas - 47th
Virginia - 44th
Wisconsin — WITH its collective bargaining for teachers — is ranked 2nd in the country."

ONCE AGAIN SENATOR DEMINT IS BARKING UP THE WRONG TREE! HIS ATTEMPTS TO JUMP ON THE AVIATION SAFETY BANDWAGON BY PROPOSING VIDEO RECORDING OUR COCKPITS AND NOW THIS ATTEMPT TO ATTACK COLLECTIVE BARGAINING RIGHTS IN EVERY STATE.

MAYBE HE SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT WHY HIS STATES CHILDREN ARE FLOUNDERING ON THEIR SAT/ACT SCORES!

FDXLAG

iowahawk: Longhorns 17, Badgers 1

jungle

What we are seeing around the world right now is a breakdown in the ability to meet those needs.

Hell son, when you have more people in the department of agriculture than farmers, something has got to give.

Thinking one party is going to give you an advantage is just another way of saying you want to cheat others to get more.

The closer we move to equality of treatment for all, the better off we will all be, this includes taxes, subsidies and any other favorable treatment by fiat.

People squawk all the time about equal rights, but we never see them step up to the plate and bat for equal responsibility.

So far the war to pry some advantage from your fellow man doesn't seem anywhere near an end. Take a long hard look at the fat cat bailouts over the last two years and tell me how they support the working man.

Printing money to support gross and unneeded massive debt will hurt us all.

Still waiting for any historical facts at all to support union favoritism by any party.

In fact I have to question why you would want to be favored over any other group of humans.

FDXLAG

Or they are white collar workers with white collar wages who contribute 95% to one political party which then turns around and rewards them with political goodies like last years stimulus.

Pragmatic1

Also the per capita income in Right to work States are the lowest in the nation.

Pragmatic1

I'm not sure if that group exists, but I do know a group where 95% of the blue collar workers with white collar salaries support the party that will turn around and reward them by destroying their rights to collectively bargain.

Pragmatic1

Actually, I do not want to be favored over any other group. I want to have the ability to bargain with corporations to protect my rights and maintain a standard of living. I think everyone should have this ability. The problem isn't unions members have better benefits, the problem is non-union members have less.

jungle

Ok, but let us suppose that both unions and corporations could get equal treatment under the law. Have you given a single thought to the 90% who are not unionized? In an honest study, you will find that compensation is derived from financial success. Unions can't provide high wages, financial success does. In fact the highest paid people in the country don't belong to unions and they are quite capable of negotiating their own terms.

Everyone wants to protect all of their rights, and the only possible way to do that is to seek equal treatment under the law.


Equal taxes, equal rights and no favoratism by any law.

Are you really ready to go there? I am.

FDXLAG

Hows the migration pattern for right to work states look to you?

Right to Work States | National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation

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