FedEx TA poll Farce
02-25-2011, 05:09 AM
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Like I said before, I can wait five years without a raise and I'm not waiting on an upgrade.
Just posting my thoughts like the rest of you.
I asked my grandaughter to poll her kindergarden class on the TA. I think the results will be interesting.
Hope to get them posted so we can compare with the results of this scientific poll.
Just posting my thoughts like the rest of you.
I asked my grandaughter to poll her kindergarden class on the TA. I think the results will be interesting.
Hope to get them posted so we can compare with the results of this scientific poll.
02-25-2011, 05:19 AM
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I predict around 60 percent will vote. The majority of those that don't vote must be happy with what they have to not participate.
I also predict that out of those that do vote it will pass by 70 percent.
We'll see, voting starts today.
I also predict that out of those that do vote it will pass by 70 percent.
We'll see, voting starts today.
02-25-2011, 05:24 AM
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Nice try, but that is not the question. The question is are you maintaining that those who voted against the current FDA LOA weren't proven by the history of improvements offered by the company during that vote, since, and in this TA to be correct in their assessment of the original FDA LOA?
That is the question. I maintain that the proponents of hysteria on here and all of those who voted against the last FDA LOA were proven out by history to have been correct. You still saying you disagree? If so, anything to back it up, or is it just your opinion?
That is the question. I maintain that the proponents of hysteria on here and all of those who voted against the last FDA LOA were proven out by history to have been correct. You still saying you disagree? If so, anything to back it up, or is it just your opinion?
02-25-2011, 05:28 AM
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Not scientific at all, but had dinner last night with 7 other crewmembers. 6 No's, 1 Not Sure. Reasons ranged from not enough money, to the reserve sick time change, to the lack of a 4a2b remedy, and the paltry 1% bonus thingy. Seniority ranged from 5-25 years. No widebody guys.
I know guys will say one thing and do another (or not vote at all) but I haven't flown or talked to anyone that is "for" this TA. It will be an interesting result. Perhaps an overwhelming "Against" vote is more of a message for the NC and the MEC than the company. Still lots of bad internal blood out there, IMO.
I know guys will say one thing and do another (or not vote at all) but I haven't flown or talked to anyone that is "for" this TA. It will be an interesting result. Perhaps an overwhelming "Against" vote is more of a message for the NC and the MEC than the company. Still lots of bad internal blood out there, IMO.
02-25-2011, 05:45 AM
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Each negotiating situation is different. The NC did what they could do at the time on the first FDA.
Because the company is offering improvements now doesn't mean they would have sweetened the pot if the first TA had been rejected. Maybe they would have. No hard evidene so no proof.
What is evident is that the company wants to get the new FDAs in place and they would prefer to do it with experienced pilots rather than new hires. Which they could do with no LOA.
Like I said in an earlier post, we (pilots and FedEx) are poised to be on the crest of the international economic recovery wave and out pace our competitors. FDAs part of that.
Yes SIBA deadheads are great but the yield per package is what pays our salaries.
Because the company is offering improvements now doesn't mean they would have sweetened the pot if the first TA had been rejected. Maybe they would have. No hard evidene so no proof.
What is evident is that the company wants to get the new FDAs in place and they would prefer to do it with experienced pilots rather than new hires. Which they could do with no LOA.
Like I said in an earlier post, we (pilots and FedEx) are poised to be on the crest of the international economic recovery wave and out pace our competitors. FDAs part of that.
Yes SIBA deadheads are great but the yield per package is what pays our salaries.
02-25-2011, 06:04 AM
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Each negotiating situation is different. The NC did what they could do at the time on the first FDA.
Because the company is offering improvements now doesn't mean they would have sweetened the pot if the first TA had been rejected. Maybe they would have. No hard evidene so no proof.
What is evident is that the company wants to get the new FDAs in place and they would prefer to do it with experienced pilots rather than new hires. Which they could do with no LOA.
Like I said in an earlier post, we (pilots and FedEx) are poised to be on the crest of the international economic recovery wave and out pace our competitors. FDAs part of that.
Yes SIBA deadheads are great but the yield per package is what pays our salaries.
Because the company is offering improvements now doesn't mean they would have sweetened the pot if the first TA had been rejected. Maybe they would have. No hard evidene so no proof.
What is evident is that the company wants to get the new FDAs in place and they would prefer to do it with experienced pilots rather than new hires. Which they could do with no LOA.
Like I said in an earlier post, we (pilots and FedEx) are poised to be on the crest of the international economic recovery wave and out pace our competitors. FDAs part of that.
Yes SIBA deadheads are great but the yield per package is what pays our salaries.
I agree with them, and will vote no on this TA.
We will see if those folks are actually representative of the crew force as a whole.
02-25-2011, 06:20 AM
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Chuck, with management skills like these, the company NEEDS you back in a management position!*?
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