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Old 02-23-2011, 06:51 AM
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Go to Section 18.B.1.b and see that if this TA is approved, the MEC officers will get a huge pay raise. They will now get the highest of the system-wide average, not what's appropriate for their domicile, aircraft and seat which means an FO on the MEC will get paid as a captain. And the average will now include carryover...and all I get is a puny 3%??!! NOW I see why the MEC is pushing so hard for us to ratify this TA!
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Go to Section 18.B.1.b and see that if this TA is approved, the MEC officers will get a huge pay raise. They will now get the highest of the system-wide average, not what's appropriate for their domicile, aircraft and seat which means an FO on the MEC will get paid as a captain. And the average will now include carryover...and all I get is a puny 3%??!! NOW I see why the MEC is pushing so hard for us to ratify this TA!
I don't think that is what it says.
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Go to Section 18.B.1.b and see that if this TA is approved, the MEC officers will get a huge pay raise. They will now get the highest of the system-wide average, not what's appropriate for their domicile, aircraft and seat which means an FO on the MEC will get paid as a captain. And the average will now include carryover...and all I get is a puny 3%??!! NOW I see why the MEC is pushing so hard for us to ratify this TA!
Funny, you must not have read the latest NC email. I suggest you go read it before you put out "facts". BTW the section 18 changes do not even read that way, if you actually read them, without being explained.

Call your rep immediately if you believe this to be true, and please report back to this "board" so we can start this fight properly and back you up!
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Under the current CBA, MEC officer's are paid based upon the pay rate of their seat position and longevity. According to the changes listed in the TA, if the TA is ratified, their pay will now be based upon the system-wide average of the highest lines with carryover. So not only are they all adding carryover to their pay, but all MEC officer's regardless of their crew position will receive the highest system-wide average pay.

And they also added more people to be paid this way. Under the CBA, this pay structure is limited to the MEC Chairman, Vice Chairman, and Secretary-Treasurer. This TA adds pilots elected or appointed to ALPA National, IFALPA, and anyone else the MEC Chairman decides to include, to a maximum of 10.
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Under the current CBA, MEC officer's are paid based upon the pay rate of their seat position and longevity. According to the changes listed in the TA, if the TA is ratified, their pay will now be based upon the system-wide average of the highest lines with carryover. So not only are they all adding carryover to their pay, but all MEC officer's regardless of their crew position will receive the highest system-wide average pay.

And they also added more people to be paid this way. Under the CBA, this pay structure is limited to the MEC Chairman, Vice Chairman, and Secretary-Treasurer. This TA adds pilots elected or appointed to ALPA National, IFALPA, and anyone else the MEC Chairman decides to include, to a maximum of 10.
Once again, suggest you double check with your sources, I do not understand this to be true in anyway. Although, I would support it, as you imply it reads. Officer pay is good but frankly we need to make the pay as attractive as we can, when you compare what most can do on the line without having the hassle and fun that goes with any of these jobs it becomes very difficult to get people to do that work. My opinion, but we have to start acting like a business, not a bunch of whiners worrying about what someone else has.

I have every confidence that the MEC, through ALPA policy properly minds the store. Please, if you are in fact correct, that the MEC Officers will get a huge raise upon ratification, let us know ASAP so others can be informed as a part of their voting decision.
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If this is a bridge/extention as they call it, why the changes to section 18, poor taste. Yes they do need to be compensated but not at this time, they can wait too.
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If this is a bridge/extention as they call it, why the changes to section 18, poor taste. Yes they do need to be compensated but not at this time, they can wait too.
Called my rep, so here is the scoop.

No changes to any Officer pay with OR without the TA being passed. Officer pay is set, per ALPA MEC Policy Manual. Any changes to that pay needs to be accomplished through that manual.

The stuff in chapter 18 is just some type of "limit" that ensures FedEx does not have to pay our Officers some crazy figure, if approved, by the council. Meaning, he said, that if the MEC decided to pay these jobs 150 CH a month that the Company could balk, since they actually pay the pilots and back bill ALPA. He said there is cost to fedex, benefits like b fund and pension issues that drive the company to want a limit.

Take it for what is is worth, don't believe my second hand recollection, find out yourself is what I suggest.
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Old 02-23-2011, 08:34 AM
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simply read the mec manual and the mec can vote to raise their pay to the new limit in the ta.
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When you do talk to your rep make sure you tell them how happy you are they could fix section 18 instead of something silly like accepted fares.
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When you do talk to your rep make sure you tell them how happy you are they could fix section 18 instead of something silly like accepted fares.
...sounds like another item mgmt had time to work on....but no time to amend Training Pay for New Hires?

...that can wait another 2...3...4.....25+ years.

Come on guys!!! Seriously???
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