BoxFlyer

I once lost a long string of R days (current month plus carryover). I did CIC in both months, with the majority with the current one. Un-use hours did work with CIC in the following month.

Pakagecheck

It is actually R day...not r period to have 12 hours of crew rest. That is why the 1st day prior to training is always dropped. Blue Threat starts at 9:00 am but RA, RA+,RB or R24 days all end at 0129 am. Found out the hard way! My scenario
rttrrr. didn't have 12 hours off so the 1st r day was dropped for crew rest. Since it didn't leave "a split". I had to sit the last 2.

MD11Fr8Dog

Kinda what I said, if the first training day is not GWOE or RGS, then you need to have a sim period with a brief after 130pm to be able leave one day in front. On the back side, it is the beginning of your reserve period that matters - i.e. RB, need to be done with the debrief by 130a, etc. Training in the past has not always begun with RGS or GWOE as it does lately.

hyperone

Also keep in mind that whatever R-days are dropped for training, that your bid guarantee pay will be reduced by the value of the dropped R-days. You'll see a much smaller paycheck that month. You are paid for the dropped days on the 15th of the following month.

Just another incentive to do your training on days off, and another little "good deal" hidden in the last contract.

Busboy

Really? My carry-in adjustment trips were paid in the month I worked them. They just adjusted my BLG to what I picked up as CIA.

MD11Fr8Dog

Hmmm, interesting. Seems every time I use this little "good deal" to knock out ALL of my R days, I still get paid for the 12 day international trip that I pick up as CIA in the current month! Only the training gets paid on the 15th of the next month!

R1200RT

You are correct S, and the other guys is... not.

hyperone

Unless you knock out the first 4 R-days of a string and don't replace those days. You know, check that little box when you're bidding next to, "If you have recurrent training due, do you want activities dropped (without pay), and be eligible for make-up to protect minimum days off?", and only work your scheduled 15 days in the month, instead of the 20+ that so many of our guys choose to do.
That's when you can expect to see a smaller paycheck that first month.

Busboy

Well, that's a fact.

This part of your earlier post caused the confusion:

Sounded like you're talking CIC makeup. When actually, you're just talking about getting paid for the training on the 15th of the next month.

But there is a "good deal" from the contract, if you choose to use it. Carry-in conflict can temporarily give you seniority to hold trips that you might not normally be able to hold. You don't have to use it to work more days...Just use it to work better trips on those days. And, your training month BLG will be adjusted to whatever you pick up.

The other half of the "good deal" from the last contract is...You actually bid for training dates. The old contract was worthless in that sense. CRS did whatever fit for them.

I prefer the current method. Although, I think we should be paid MPDP-2(6:00) for the days we are training.

FDX aviator

I have a further complication: I have carry over R days, and vacation that starts next month (28 March). I'm wondering if I need to slide my vacation one day to the right?
I wish I would have copied it down, but there was a note in VIPS before I submitted the conflict processing info that basically said something along the lines that it was possible that the vacation could cause the entire string of R days to be dropped. That worries me, since I have a single block of reserve days that I'm trying to split with training. I tried to figure out what that meant in the contract, but gave up after my head started hurting...
Does anyone have any firsthand knowledge of this situation?
As an added bonus, I called futures and left a message as soon as the bid came out, but never got a call back. Luckily, the conflict input window closes before anyone will be back in the office...