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Old 02-02-2011, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by CactusCrew
Seriously ? Collecting a type rating in their 60's just before retirement ?

Definitely not my idea of the way to slide into retirement ... but whatever works !

I've seen several do it.
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Old 02-02-2011, 09:49 AM
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I've seen several do it.
Is it just their way of sticking it to the company one last time? Or is there something they can use that type for after retirement?
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Old 02-02-2011, 10:22 AM
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I'm betting we have numerous over 60 guys that submit their retirement paperwork immediately after the get their 777 type ratings ...
That just seems like too much work for me....
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Old 02-02-2011, 10:35 AM
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Is it just their way of sticking it to the company one last time? Or is there something they can use that type for after retirement?
Sure, depending on when (as in what age) they leave. There's always companies looking for short term contracts, to fly almost anything, and a type rating in a triple 7 is not too shabby. That said, I don't believe in those types of schemes, and would like to see some sort of legalese to address someone going through upgrade training, just to then retire, right after the type rating ride. Seriously, the company should be able to expect the crewmember to do some work for the money they laid out on his or her training.

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Old 02-02-2011, 11:37 AM
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Jetjok...

You don't understand how it is at ups. Training at ups is free...there is no cost associated with the numerous downgrades and aircraft changes. At least that is what they told us when we tried to have them take the cost of training into account due to the furlough.

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PS It would serve the company right to "give" away a bunch of 747-400 types just prior to crewmembers retiring.
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Old 02-02-2011, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Freightpuppy
That just seems like too much work for me....
Same here ...
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Originally Posted by CactusCrew
Seriously ? Collecting a type rating in their 60's just before retirement ?
If it ties up the training department it works for me!
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Old 02-02-2011, 05:36 PM
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If it ties up the training department it works for me!

Good point !

Just saying that I won't be the type to put forth that effort ...
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Pilot7576,

Thanks for explaining that to me, but your explanation had nothing at all to do with my post. My point was that (I feel) guys shouldn't be able to take up a training slot, just to get another type rating, just prior to retirement. My post had nothing to do with paying for training. In fact, what I was suggesting was that if someone went through training and got their type rating, then immediately put in their paperwork for retirement, said pilot should have to repay the company for the expense they incurred in training him or her.

I understand the contentiousness that's going on at UPS right now, and this same scenario might also be happening at FedEx, but that said, it makes no sense at all, from a company point of view, nor from a crew-force-in-general point of view, to allow someone to take up a training slot, just to retire immediately upon completion of the course. Wouldn't it be better for everyone else if that position was taken up by someone else on the seniority list, someone who could, upon completion of the training, actually be productive? I don't understand why someone would actually say that "if it ties up the training department it works for me!" Sounds like someone is happier wasting a training slot, than moving up one crew position. Oh well, to each his own.

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Old 02-02-2011, 06:16 PM
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Jetjok...

I understand and concur with your assessment. My response was tic to ups' contention that training costs are zero and therefore should not be calculated as a cost to the furlough. In the big scheme of things, if some walk away with an unused type rating that causes double training for one position, perhaps that will speed the recall of furloughed members.

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