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Old 01-25-2011, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by dojetdriver
As the guy pointed out, it's a semantics thing that has "rules" involved/ associated with the words.

If you're circling VMC...
This is my point... you ALWAYS circle when VMC... by definition.

So what does this restriction actually mean, since you will never circle IMC?
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Old 01-25-2011, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by AK Hawg
Then the next question, and the one I think you're implying, is if you can only shoot it if the field is at or above 1000 & 3 and your MDA is 980, then do you have to drop down to 500AGL to maintain 500' below the clouds once you break out? That certainly wouldn't seem to make sense to me, but then if you don't you wouldn't be flying it under visual flight rules, just in visual meteorological conditions.
You pretty much answered your question. Since you are on the IFC clearance, the VFR 500 ft below rule wouldn't apply.

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So what does this restriction actually mean, since you will never circle IMC?
Don't ask me brother, like I said, semantic B.S. that stems from the maneuvers not being trained/checked on a lot of operators approved training programs. But if I was gonna take a stab, it's a screwed up way of saying you can never perform a circling maneuver at an airport unless the weather is at least 1000/3, or the circling mins if they are more restrictive.

But that would be a whole lot of crap to try to cram onto the backs of our certificates
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Old 01-25-2011, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive
Limitations
MD-11 Circ. Apch - VMC Only."

I have no such limitation on my (FedEx administered) MD-11 type rating? As JJ states, it's a FDX FOM restriction
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Old 01-25-2011, 04:16 PM
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Obviously we're looking too deeply into the limitations aspect. We all have limitations with respect to being English proficient, VMC circling, SIC only types, etc. Fedex wants to be certain you don't have a centerline thrust only limit, or multi-engine VFR only limit, think along those lines.
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Old 01-25-2011, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive
How about this...

AND, does "circling VMC only" count as a "limitation"?!
42 post ago the original question was is, "Circlining VMC Only" a limitation?

The answer is yes. It is a limitation. If it wasn't a limitation it wouldn't be listed.
It doesn't matter that FedEx doesn't go to HYA, it is a limitation. HYA was just a wx example.

When you get in give me a call, the beers are on me. If HYA is IMC I'll be at the Quarterdeck, if the field is VMC I'll be at the beach.

Once again, if you have to ask the question, maybe you shouldn't be applying to FedEx.
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Old 01-25-2011, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Busboy
Just to clear this up?

The "CIRC. APCH - VMC ONLY", is an aircraft specific limitation only.

It is not a limitation for the ATP. I can circle to land, to circling mins, in anything other than the particular aircraft designated "CIRC. APCH - VMC ONLY", on the back of my ATP certificate.

There, now it's as clear as mud.
+1... it's not a limitation for your ATP, just the aircraft.
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Old 01-25-2011, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by caboose b17

...Once again, if you have to ask the question, maybe you shouldn't be applying to FedEx.
I think there should be a block on the application that requires the applicant to list their APC "username".

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Old 01-25-2011, 10:47 PM
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Sounds good, I would love to log my King Air 200 time as PIC over 12500. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Old 01-26-2011, 10:20 AM
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Sunny, Flaps,

Thanks for the advice. I will include Instructor time in the PIC - but I'll add a comment on the questionair page stating that I've added that time in. That way I make sure I get credit for the time, and if that is not what they intended then at least I am honest in telling them what I did.

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Old 01-26-2011, 10:56 AM
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Turtle,

I'm pretty sure if you read the directions on the top of the "hours" page, if not there I read it somewhere in the profile - to add instructor time into the PIC time and then also break it out as instructor time in that block. Hope this helps, good luck and fly safe.
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