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Old 01-24-2011, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by rk772
One of us is not reading this paragraph correctly:

The 12.5K GW requirement applies for any aircraft type which has at least one model in the aircraft line above 12.5K GW. For example, flight hours in a King Air 90 which has a GW of 9K would count because the King Air also has versions (King Air 200 and above) that have max GW above 12.5K.

The way I understand that paragraph Is that If your aircraft has at least one model thats above 12.5, then you can log it. Since a King Air 350 is above 12.5, then I can log the King Air 90 or 200. Am I correct?
What I am saying is that the King air 300/350 is a different type rating then a King air 200. Would you log Gulfstream 2 time as Gulfstream 5 time or Challenger 600 time as Challenger 605 time they are not the same aircraft nor the same type ratings. Even my army buddy that flew the 14000 lb King Air 200 went and took his civilian type ride in the 200 and the type rating does note say King Air 300/350. I am not the expert on what FedEx wants but I am 100 percent positive that King Air 300/350 and a king Air 90 are not the same in the eyes of the FAA. I personally left my King Air 200 and Turbo Commander 690 time off the app, I would rather not log something in the gray area just to beef up my app a little bit.
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Old 01-25-2011, 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Climbto450
What I am saying is that the King air 300/350 is a different type rating then a King air 200. Would you log Gulfstream 2 time as Gulfstream 5 time or Challenger 600 time as Challenger 605 time they are not the same aircraft nor the same type ratings. Even my army buddy that flew the 14000 lb King Air 200 went and took his civilian type ride in the 200 and the type rating does note say King Air 300/350. I am not the expert on what FedEx wants but I am 100 percent positive that King Air 300/350 and a king Air 90 are not the same in the eyes of the FAA. I personally left my King Air 200 and Turbo Commander 690 time off the app, I would rather not log something in the gray area just to beef up my app a little bit.
In this case, The FEDEX App, I respectfully think you are wrong in what you can count on your app. The company specifically cites the King Air line as the example used, listing the 9k King Air 90 as the lightest example. Because one variant in the line is above 12,5k FEDEX will allow you to count all the hours "for their "purposes". I agree with
your analysis of what is and is not legitimately a typed airframe, but the company can consider time any way it wants, which in this case allows for you to count all your King Air time. As a follow on, it is really no different than the argument going around these boards about whether or not a flight engineer written, that expired more than 2 years ago, can still be used, if you have been continually employed by a 121 carrier. The simple answer is that by the FAA regulations, yes, but FEDEX is using its own rules by demanding that it be current w/i 2 years.
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Old 01-25-2011, 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive
How about this...

AND, does "circling VMC only" count as a "limitation"?!
ATIS: KHYA 251153Z 33025kt, 8sm, bkn060, ovc080, ILS15, Circle 33.

If you have to ask if "circiling VMC only" counts as a limitation; maybe you shouldn't be applying to FedEx.
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Old 01-25-2011, 03:49 AM
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They also put the CRJ-200 as a 12.5-40k airplane when its MGTOW is 53k. I have a feeling they wanted to keep its weight low since those pilots are a dime a dozen.
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Old 01-25-2011, 04:10 AM
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caboose,

Great first post. You're going to fit in well here.

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Old 01-25-2011, 07:02 AM
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Old 01-25-2011, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by AK Hawg
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't circling by definition a VMC maneuver? Maybe I'm a wuss, but I personally go missed if I enter IMC once I've commenced the circle!

Seriously though, I don't understand what that limitation means exactly - does it mean you can't even commence the approach from the IAF unless you're VMC?
I believe that it means the the field ceiling and vis must be vfr to circle, not just above published circling mins. Most airline training programs do not teach/evaluate circling maneuvers during their programs, thus the restriction is required by the FAA.
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Old 01-25-2011, 08:47 AM
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in order to cirlce in VMC the field must be at least 1000 ft ceeling and three miles visibility. If you have this limitation then that is what the weather must be in order to circle. If you do not have the limitation then you cna use published mins.

When FedEx does your type do you have the chance to perform the circling below VMC mins manuever to get this limitation off of your license?
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Originally Posted by caboose b17
ATIS: KHYA 251153Z 33025kt, 8sm, bkn060, ovc080, ILS15, Circle 33.

If you have to ask if "circiling VMC only" counts as a limitation; maybe you shouldn't be applying to FedEx.
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Old 01-25-2011, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by hoover
in order to cirlce in VMC the field must be at least 1000 ft ceeling and three miles visibility. If you have this limitation then that is what the weather must be in order to circle. If you do not have the limitation then you cna use published mins.

When FedEx does your type do you have the chance to perform the circling below VMC mins manuever to get this limitation off of your license?
If I'm you, we already know the answer
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