Transmile selling 4 MD-11 to FedEx
01-14-2011, 06:34 PM
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Excuse my ignorance, but what is the deal with Morningstar Air Express? I see they fly 75s and 72s with the FedEx paint scheme in Canada with Canadian registration. Does that mean those two are going to that company and why would FedEx contract a company to fly their own fleet. Special Canadian rules or something. Someone please enlighten me on this whole arrangement.
Sorry that I'm going a little off topic, and again, please excuse my ignorance.
PtP
Sorry that I'm going a little off topic, and again, please excuse my ignorance.
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01-14-2011, 06:47 PM
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We can't do point-to-point flying within Canada or anywhere else I guess. Although I know we used to do SFS-Cebu. I'm sure there are certain restrictions and side agreements to the Cabotage rules.
01-14-2011, 10:42 PM
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None of the freight dropped of in Cebu originated in Subic, because that would violate cabotage rules. It's not illegal for any carrier to fly point to point in a foreign country. However, they cannot transport goods or passengers that originate and terminate in a foreign country. Here's an example, FedEx flies MEM-NRT-KIX: FedEx can drop off and pick up freight in NRT and continue to KIX. The freight picked up in NRT cannot be dropped off in KIX. FedEx cannot fly freight that originates in Toronto and drop it off in Vancouver, that's why there's Morning Star.
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01-15-2011, 03:54 PM
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01-15-2011, 09:11 PM
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01-16-2011, 07:16 AM
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None of the freight dropped of in Cebu originated in Subic, because that would violate cabotage rules. It's not illegal for any carrier to fly point to point in a foreign country. However, they cannot transport goods or passengers that originate and terminate in a foreign country. Here's an example, FedEx flies MEM-NRT-KIX: FedEx can drop off and pick up freight in NRT and continue to KIX. The freight picked up in NRT cannot be dropped off in KIX. FedEx cannot fly freight that originates in Toronto and drop it off in Vancouver, that's why there's Morning Star.
01-16-2011, 08:49 AM
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You would be wrong. They are VERY specific, and I would be surprised if it ever has happened. Such a thing would NOT be "perfectly within Cabotage rules", but would be a direct violation, just as it would be for Air Canada to pick up pax in JFK, transit them through YYZ and fly them to LAX.
01-16-2011, 03:21 PM
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01-17-2011, 01:59 PM
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Or, maybe as your say, they got a 1.3B contract award, but I doubt it.
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