JustUnderPar

This is not something that the legal system has been letting slip by, like say DUI's. It gets judges in hot water when they go soft on these type of people. There are more than a few looking for work after the voters ousted them from the bench.

UPS does have a clause that states you can be terminated if you do anything disparaging to the company. I believe that this would fit the bill. Even if it is busted down to a misdemeanor. The union will not do anything either. I know more than a few people that would sue the union if one penny of their dues money went to pay for this loser's defense.

Sad part is I believe he is married and has 3 children.

L'il J.Seinfeld

Keep in mind that there is another guy hired around the same time, with the same last name, although spelled differently.

Whistlin' Dan

"To a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail"

And to a cop who's spent several-hundred man-hours and who knows how much of the departments money sitting on his arse in some cozy cubicle trying to ensnare some poor bastard into "making a date for sex" with a minor, everybody looks like a child-molester. Especially in the midwest, there's no shortage of rinkey-dink Barney Fife's who would like nothing better than to be the next Chris Hanson.

I'm NOT defending child-molesters...I too, have kids of my own. What I AM defending is this individuals right not to be judged based on an accusation of wrongdoing.

As a matter of course, we do that when one of our own is involved in an accident. Is it too much to ask that judgement on this individual be witheld until all the facts have come out?

USMCFDX

Only fact I need is he was picked up at the location where he planned on meeting a child. Talk like a perv all you want on the internet.

1800 RVR

I agree with you about "innocent until proven guilty", but why would an adult EVER be chatting in a chat room where kids are? It doesn't make sense. I'm not saying that is what he was doing, but to be in a location where a meet was scheduled to occur doesn't look good.

Freightpuppy

Exactly.....

ptarmigan

It is a relative thing, but people get a lot harsher sentences for drug possession in most states than for being a pedophile. Same for a number of other crimes. Do a little comparative research. How our society can be harder on things like drug possession (not even dealing drugs) compared to crimes against children is beyond me. It is pathetic.

Whistlin' Dan

It's interesting to me that the only charge brought so far is "unlawful use of a computer." Kentucky, like most states, has pretty specific language dealing with attempts to entice children into sex acts using the computer or otherwise. That the state hasn't brought the charge tells me that something may be amiss in their allegations against this man.

As of right now, we're getting all of our information from the news, which is getting it from law enforcement. As a result, we're only getting one side of the story..the "hammer's" side. Law enforcement is under no duty to present a "fair" or "balanced" account of what actually took place...that's what the courts are for. Moreover, when it comes to truth, members of law enforcement are not always the choir boys we wish them to be. By that I mean that they are known, on occasion, to LIE.

(If you can find a copy of Rodney King's arrest report online, go back and read it. The cop's original version of King's arrest differed substantially from what was being recorded (without their knowledge, obviously) on videotape. In fact, it differed enough to send most of the cops involved to prison, and to make Rodney King a very wealthy man.)

Unlike many of you, I don't personally know the individual charged in this. He may well be a perv. But there is the possibility that he is a caring and concerned father and family man who thinks he's been corresponding with a youth who has been turning tricks on the street to escape a broken or abusive home life. And unless there was some specific language in their chats regarding specific acts and/or payment for same, that may well be what was intended.

The point is, I don't know the whole story, and I don't think any of you know either. All I'm suggesting is that you withold judgement until all the facts have come out.

Jetjok

Like I said in my initial post, whatever happened to "he's innocent until proven guilty?"

That said, while you might be correct in your above statement about drug dealers getting harsher punishment than do those convicted as pedophiles, over time, the pedophile is much more ostracized than is the drug dealer, and as such, pays a much heavier penalty. A few years ago a convicted pedophile moved into our neighborhood. That person, and his family, including his wife and two small boys, have absolutely no friends in this area. The boys are home-schooled, and none of the other parents will allow their children to play with, or even say "hello" to them. It's really a shame, because, certainly these two kids had nothing to do with their father's transgressions. But everyone suffers. His police record is public knowledge and his immediate neighbors make sure that everyone is well aware of what he had done.

Regarding the guy in this thread, I say that we let things play out, before we sell him down the river, after all, we really don't know what happened, except what's written in the press.

JJ

Archie Bunker

Dan is exactly right. We really don't know squat about this case. A lot of us have been pretty brutal to this guy without really knowing all the facts.

After I took a minute to re-read the two newspaper articles on this guy's arrest, I found them to be incredibly vague, one sided, and make the UPS pilot look very guilty without any real evidence besides the police department's word. Excuse me but..."illegal use of a computer?" Huh? Sounds very fishy.

I would like to see transcripts of the conversation between the adult and the "child." The fact is, we really don't know what was said, or why he went to meet this "kid." It could be for totally innocent reasons...or he could be a child predator. We just don't know for sure yet.

I have a gut feeling in my stomach about this case like the rest of you, but we really need to give this guy the benefit of the doubt. He deserves his day in court, and a chance to explain his actions.

I pray for his sake that this is just some terrible misunderstanding, otherwise things are going to get ugly for him real quick. Pedophiles are considered the lowest form of scum in the prison population's hierarchy of criminals.