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Old 01-06-2011, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Whistlin' Dan
For the last time, I'm not "defending" him. What I'm defending is his right to the presumption of innocence, and his "right" that his punishment not exceed the magnitude of his crime. These type of cases run the spectrum from a teacher or civic leader who overtly sexualizes a person under their trust and who is underage, to an 18-year-old who has sex with a girl who is under 18, but has a fake ID that states she is older. (which would not be a defense under the law, BTW) This case probably falls somewhere in-between.

Apparently, some of his "fellow airmen" would be happy to see him castrated, anally raped in prison for the rest of his life, and his wife and kids thrown destitute into the streets. I hate to dissapoint, but the jails and prisons are full of REALLY bad guys, and however morally repugnant he may seem to you, he's a relatively low-level threat to society. After trial, he may well be sent directly into a sexual offender, or "diversion" program and serve no additional time whatsoever.

Was he found with condoms in his pocket? I guess I missed that part.
You are right. The condoms were in his hotel room with the laptop that he admitted using to lure the 14yo girl to meet for sexual activity. My bad.
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:32 PM
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I hope this guys meets Bubba in the big house and stays for a long time, after all he is senior to me!
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Old 01-06-2011, 04:40 PM
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I hope this guys meets Bubba in the big house and stays for a long time, after all he is senior to me!
Ahhhhh, the truth finally comes out.

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Old 01-06-2011, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Whistlin' Dan

BTW - I still think Traci Lords first Penthouse photo-shoot was hot, even if she was underage. Does that make me a would-be predator?
Not necessarily a predator, Jim. But definitely a pedophile.

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Your comparing someone who committed a crime by wanting to sexually molest/rape a 14 year old girl, to someone whom is captured in a combat zone while engaged in war? Are you drunk when you type?
Yes. he most likely was.


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And please bid domestic so you too can be processed in the American justice system someday. It's inevitable in cases like yours.
Not to worry. Jim can't bid anything. He lost his airman's certificate due to his inability to complete a check ride after decades of worrying his FO's. But after reading his posts here, you are right that he will probably be processed by the American justice system ... maybe after an "interview" with Chris Hansen.

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Old 01-07-2011, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Whistlin' Dan
For the last time, I'm not "defending" him. What I'm defending is his right to the presumption of innocence, and his "right" that his punishment not exceed the magnitude of his crime.
Apparently, some of his "fellow airmen" would be happy to see him castrated, anally raped in prison for the rest of his life, and his wife and kids thrown destitute into the streets. part.
Personally I think we are too lenient on certain crimes in this counrty. Maybe if we weren't people would think twice before commiting certain crimes.

Noone said his family should be thrown destitute into the streets. If his wife doesn't have any other skills than to raise kids and has depended solely on her husband to provide for her financially, well then I wouldsay she hasn't made a good decision. The biggest thing my mom taught me was not to depend on anyone financially except myself.
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Old 01-07-2011, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Freightpuppy
Personally I think we are too lenient on certain crimes in this counrty. Maybe if we weren't people would think twice before commiting certain crimes.

Noone said his family should be thrown destitute into the streets. If his wife doesn't have any other skills than to raise kids and has depended solely on her husband to provide for her financially, well then I wouldsay she hasn't made a good decision. The biggest thing my mom taught me was not to depend on anyone financially except myself.
Sounds like you had a good, strong willed mother. I could not agree with you more.

I feel sorry for this jerks family. Heard he has several children.
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Old 01-07-2011, 08:21 AM
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Sounds like you had a good, strong willed mother. I could not agree with you more.

I feel sorry for this jerks family. Heard he has several children.
Don't believe everything you hear. He has no children. I'm sure his wife was completely blindsided by this, though. She definitely has my sympathy
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Old 01-07-2011, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Freightpuppy
Personally I think we are too lenient on certain crimes in this counrty. Maybe if we weren't people would think twice before commiting certain crimes.

Noone said his family should be thrown destitute into the streets. If his wife doesn't have any other skills than to raise kids and has depended solely on her husband to provide for her financially, well then I wouldsay she hasn't made a good decision. The biggest thing my mom taught me was not to depend on anyone financially except myself.
AMEN. If we didn't have so many Captains paying alimony to 2 or 3 ex-wives (who made two bad decisions: the marriage and financial dependance thereafter) they might have afforded to retire at 60 and kept 167 from being furloughed.
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Old 01-08-2011, 05:49 AM
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Ahhhhh, the truth finally comes out.

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You are correct, if I move up a number I am happy.
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Old 01-08-2011, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by FR8TFLYER
You are correct, if I move up a number I am happy.
Yea.....but it does not do you any good unless someone comes in behind you. If there is no hiring going on then there is no increase in seniority.
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