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#141
If you tell a civilian you're going to throw him in prison and the other prisoners are going to kill him, he'll probably "confess" as well.
I'm curious...what guidance does the Marine Corps give their aviators about making coerced statements while in captivity?
N9373M - Well hell, that settles it! The IT guy always knows everything.
#142
Line Holder
Joined APC: May 2006
Position: Back to the Future Jets
Posts: 34
Now go abuse yourself in a closet like David Carradine and stop facilitating the abuse of little girls by paying $ to see them naked.
And please bid domestic so you too can be processed in the American justice system someday. It's inevitable in cases like yours.
#143
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Posts: 276
This guy deserves NO sympathy. It seems clear he has been doing this for some time. Maybe it started overseas (where children have little to no protection from people that pay for sex) and he decided to venture into the domestic world. Probably not the first time he has made such a bold move....Glad he got caught. One less pedophile on the street is a step in the right direction. Ever work with people that have been subjected to sexual abuse? Your worried about this guy who is an adult. Made a decision! He seems to have made a confession to boot.
You obviously know a LOT more about this guy than I do, a lot more than guys who've flown with him do, a lot more than anybody else on this board does, more even than has been alleged by law enforcement. In fact, you seem to know a lot more about him and his prior history than has been released to the press, at least up to this point. Which leads me to ask...
How long have you personally known him, and what was the nature of your relationship with him?
Please don't tell me you don't know him, because if you tell me you don't know him, I'm gonna think you're talking out of your butt like that guy on "Ace Ventura," and I'd hate to think that a character in a Jim Carrey movie was a role-model for a person in a responsible position such as yours.
#144
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: a-300 cpt
Posts: 19
My, My! A pedophile...multiple offender...made a "confession"...etcetera, etcetera.
You obviously know a LOT more about this guy than I do, a lot more than guys who've flown with him do, a lot more than anybody else on this board does, more even than has been alleged by law enforcement. In fact, you seem to know a lot more about him and his prior history than has been released to the press, at least up to this point. Which leads me to ask...
How long have you personally known him, and what was the nature of your relationship with him?
Please don't tell me you don't know him, because if you tell me you don't know him, I'm gonna think you're talking out of your butt like that guy on "Ace Ventura," and I'd hate to think that a character in a Jim Carrey movie was a role-model for a person in a responsible position such as yours.
You obviously know a LOT more about this guy than I do, a lot more than guys who've flown with him do, a lot more than anybody else on this board does, more even than has been alleged by law enforcement. In fact, you seem to know a lot more about him and his prior history than has been released to the press, at least up to this point. Which leads me to ask...
How long have you personally known him, and what was the nature of your relationship with him?
Please don't tell me you don't know him, because if you tell me you don't know him, I'm gonna think you're talking out of your butt like that guy on "Ace Ventura," and I'd hate to think that a character in a Jim Carrey movie was a role-model for a person in a responsible position such as yours.
#145
Ted Bundy comes to mind immediately. He STILL has some people duped.
#148
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Posts: 276
Another marker authorites use when investigating these kinds of cases is a predeliction for kiddie-porn. I'm sure they seized his computers, but I don't recall any mention of him being charged with possession of kiddie-porn, so this may just be a case of collossally bad judgement on his part.
Either way, even if he's found not guilty, or guilty of a lesser-charge, he and his family are going to pay a very heavy price for all of this. "It's a life-changing event"
BTW, my only "interest" in these kinds of things comes from several circumstances, most notably growing up next-door to a guy who went to prison for "lewd and lascivious behavior involving children" In his case, they were in fact "children" and not merely "underage", and none of us were surprised when it happened. He had a pretty long track record of being "weird, in a sexual way," starting in his mid-teens, especially after a few drinks. He never held a normal job, and was arrested at least once (maybe more, not sure) in his late-20's for something involving a 7-year old girl. Then came the charges which took him off the street for the next 20 years or so. "Off the street" is where that guy definitely needed to be!
#149
Too often, I'm afraid. I'm hoping this doesn't turn out to be one of those cases. One thing that mitigates in his favor is that he doesn't have a record of prior convictions for this type of crime. As I understand it, clinically-diagnosed pedophilia usually begins around adolescence and involves a close member of the family or someone else who the child trusts, which is hard to hide from other adult members of the community. So if this guy has been operating under the radar, he's been doing a pretty good job of it for the last 20 years or so.
Another marker authorites use when investigating these kinds of cases is a predeliction for kiddie-porn. I'm sure they seized his computers, but I don't recall any mention of him being charged with possession of kiddie-porn, so this may just be a case of collossally bad judgement on his part.
Either way, even if he's found not guilty, or guilty of a lesser-charge, he and his family are going to pay a very heavy price for all of this. "It's a life-changing event"
BTW, my only "interest" in these kinds of things comes from several circumstances, most notably growing up next-door to a guy who went to prison for "lewd and lascivious behavior involving children" In his case, they were in fact "children" and not merely "underage", and none of us were surprised when it happened. He had a pretty long track record of being "weird, in a sexual way," starting in his mid-teens, especially after a few drinks. He never held a normal job, and was arrested at least once (maybe more, not sure) in his late-20's for something involving a 7-year old girl. Then came the charges which took him off the street for the next 20 years or so. "Off the street" is where that guy definitely needed to be!
Another marker authorites use when investigating these kinds of cases is a predeliction for kiddie-porn. I'm sure they seized his computers, but I don't recall any mention of him being charged with possession of kiddie-porn, so this may just be a case of collossally bad judgement on his part.
Either way, even if he's found not guilty, or guilty of a lesser-charge, he and his family are going to pay a very heavy price for all of this. "It's a life-changing event"
BTW, my only "interest" in these kinds of things comes from several circumstances, most notably growing up next-door to a guy who went to prison for "lewd and lascivious behavior involving children" In his case, they were in fact "children" and not merely "underage", and none of us were surprised when it happened. He had a pretty long track record of being "weird, in a sexual way," starting in his mid-teens, especially after a few drinks. He never held a normal job, and was arrested at least once (maybe more, not sure) in his late-20's for something involving a 7-year old girl. Then came the charges which took him off the street for the next 20 years or so. "Off the street" is where that guy definitely needed to be!
#150
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Posts: 276
Bottom line is if I found a grown man trying to meet my 14 yo daughter with a condom in his pocket, it would be the last bad decision he would make. Defend your friend for as long as you want, but he is lucky in my opinion, that it was an undercover cop that met him, and not some 14 yr old girl's father.
Apparently, some of his "fellow airmen" would be happy to see him castrated, anally raped in prison for the rest of his life, and his wife and kids thrown destitute into the streets. I hate to dissapoint, but the jails and prisons are full of REALLY bad guys, and however morally repugnant he may seem to you, he's a relatively low-level threat to society. After trial, he may well be sent directly into a sexual offender, or "diversion" program and serve no additional time whatsoever.
Was he found with condoms in his pocket? I guess I missed that part.
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