Freightpuppy

Everytime I read about this kind of stuff I wonder how the parents don't go vigilante on these scumbags. I look at my little boy and little girl and think if someone hurt them in this way, I couldn't go on until the POS was DEAD! I'm serious. I really wonder how these parents can go on living knowing these less than humans are still living.

FXDX

Freightpuppy: Now go google the safe school czar and nambla and you will be even more amazed. I hope you weren't planning on sending your kids to public schools. No way I would if they were as young as yours.

PastV1

And did you know that NAMBLA was one of the charities you could give to during the military donation drive each year! Forgot what the drive was called.

FR8TFLYER

That would be CFC, Combined Federal Campaign.

Whistlin' Dan

A genuine tragedy. I think what scares us, as parents, the most is the notion that even after doing everything possible to ensure the safety of our kids, they can still fall prey to scum like that. At least it looks like the perps access to kids will be severely limited for rest of this natural life.

jungle-

NAMBLA? You mean the "North American Man-Beer Love Association? I'm not presently affiliated with it, but I think I meet the requirements for membership if you'll just show me where to join...

Jetjok

Yeah, but remember that that scum is the son or daughter of someone, or the parent of some kids, or the husband/wife of someone, etc, so I intend to keep that "scum" in my thoughts and prayers. Now, Dan, I ask you....does that sound asinine or what? You need to go back and read your posts, because they read the same as mine here. The difference of course is I'm being sarcastic and you weren't.

JJ

Whistlin' Dan

You're not being sarcastic, you're being vindictive. You're just hiding it (barely) under a thin veneer of sarcasm.

vin-dic-tive
adj.
2. marked by or resulting from a desire to hurt

I take it that you're not happy that this individual will spend the rest of his life in prison, and that you want his parents, wife and kids to suffer too? Sorry, I can't go there with you. No matter how heinous his crime, his family and those who loved and depended upon him played no part in it.

I guess "blood feuds" are just not my thing.

Jetjok

Damn good point! Set them all free, each and every one of them, because, after all, they have parents and loved ones too. Yeah, that'll work. Then how safe would you and yours be? No one is advocating that his parents, etc, suffer, it's just that life sort of works that way. Two weeks ago, my son was diagnosed with hodgkins disease. He starts chemotherapy tomorrow, followed, if he's lucky by radiation therapy. Did he deserve this at 34 years old? Probably not. Do my wife and I deserve the feelings that we're going through right now, worrying about his long-term health and how he's going to handle these therapies? No, but that's the way life is. Look, no one is suggesting that this guys' loved ones stop loving and caring for him. What we are suggesting is that if he's found guilty, then he should be put away for a good long time.

JJ

Whistlin' Dan

If you're talking about the cabbie who murdered that young man down in Louisana, it's a fait accompli...he's going away for life. It's interesting that the perps family has issued a public statement expressing their condolences to the victim's loved ones, and asking that they (the perps family) not be made to bear the burden of his crime.

If you're talking about the pilot who stands accused of trying to have sex with an underage young woman, I consider him more of an "opportunist" that a genuine perpetrator. I would think that losing a career, followed most likely by his home and family, would be punishment enough. But again, we're talking about Goober Country. It wasn't that long ago that a teacher could be run out of these parts for teaching Darwinism, or a black man hung for speaking to a white woman. So, I guess we'll see, eh?
JJ, though we may disagree on some matters, as parents we share a common bond. No parent "deserves" what you and your wife must be going through. Among the many contributors to this forum, I'm sure that I'm not alone in stating that you and yours will be in our thoughts this holiday season, and in the months to come. And yea, I mean that....

FWIW - I know a woman who was diagnosed with Pre-Hodgkin's Lymphoma (not sure if it's related) at age 19. At the time, it was a virtual death-sentence. She underwent what was at the time, a highly experimental course of treatment, and has been (regrettably, for me) disease-free for the 35 years since.

jungle

"Idealism increases in direct proportion to ones distance from the problem."
– John Galsworthy

It is rare to see anyone try to defend a pedophile, but not unheard of when it comes along with an attempt to recalibrate the moral compass of those poor fools in "goober states".

Justice can indeed be a slippery subject, but if you think justice is the sole monopoly of "non-goober states" then you have not really looked very closely. It is mostly in "non-goober states" that I see entire sections of cities where the police fear to tread, a largely dependent population, poorly educated, and milked for all they are worth by criminals posing as leaders.

I think that adults should be minimally governed, but children deserve all the protection we can give them. It is also unlikely that predators only go on a single hunt, or opportunists for that matter.