Albief15

Capt Drew...

As a guy who feels like a newbie even after almost 5 years here, I always enjoy your perspective. Doesn't mean I'll always 100% agree, but dudes like you A) helped build the company that feeds my family and B) entertain me on trips when I hear some of the stories of the crazy stuff that happened here before...

Bitme is right--I don't want you wigged out and ruining your retirement. Your insights, however...I always welcome.

Cheers...

FDXCapt

Until you've been personally notified by either CRS or VIPS, you're not responsible for any changes to a scheduled trip.

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captain_drew

Cheers your own self. I will 'wig out' when gas gets too damn expensive to top off the Harley . .and not until then . . I just know that y'all are going to be retired too. .some day . .and you need to start taking the long view about what you are worth . .and what you have to do (collectively) to get there.

Bitme

I came unglued when that message line came out. I have to hope it was just a misguided ill conceived missive that just didn't get caught, but if you too feel your Union should have taken a harder stance you need to let you rep and the MEC know. [email protected]

TonyC

Notification is defined in The Agreement.


An FCIF from the system chief pilot is NOT one of the methods.



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Bitme

Bravo, you're one of the few who's broken the code. Drew I flew with a guy years ago divorced 2 or 3 times and barely taking home a dime; I asked him what failed in the first marriage. He said his wife wanted a maid to clean their house and things went downhill from there. I asked him that now that he had two alimonies how much a maid would have cost him

One of my friends has a real outspoken wife who has a few wines once in a while and loves to joke that she'll suck his d..k til she dies as long as he pops for the maid I know you shouldn't have to pay for it, but everybody pays somehow. I'm very lucky with mein frau, but things would have to get really bad before I'd ever head into D court, especially in TN.

TonyC

I see two issues here. The first is early show times. Asking pilots to show an hour before their scheduled showtimes is unacceptable. If they want us here early, they need to revise the pairings to reflect that. Revising the pairing may, in some cases, impact pay calculations and result in additional monetary compensation.

In that regard, I join the union in praising management for stepping up to the plate and doing the right thing. Rather than leaving the pairings as published and begging us to make the adjustments out of our own free time, they have sucked up a penny or two and put it on paper.


Under different circumstances, I would be more than happy to go above and beyond the call of duty and check my schedule ahead of time to see if there was anything I could do to make sure everything continues to run smoothly for the Company.

Of course, these are NOT different circumstances. These are the circumstances that have been forced by waiting now 803 days after the amendable date of our contract. In THESE circumstances, I'm not inclined to exert even a mere tenth of a percent over 100% effort.


Now, the second issue is that of Notification. Jack seems to think his FCIF is sufficient. The Collective Bargaining Agreement that would be examined in court says differently. I don't believe the Union's message line addresses that aspect of the FCIF.

However, I think the Union must be very careful in how it publicly addresses such issues. For the Union to suggest that we collectively refuse to access VIPS or answer the phone calls from CRS might be construed as an illegal job action, a variation from the normal mode of operation. While we can each choose personally to act in that way, it would not be proper for the Union to encourage the membership as a whole to do anything out of the normal, day-to-day routine.


Nevertheless, I wholeheartedly endorse your idea to let your Reps know how you feel!





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BrownGirls YUM

Close, but the one who has no "original issue" wife and only has to pay for the maid is the one who truly has broken the code!

captain_drew

I don't THINK so!

That's a pretty sorry, lonely and unhappy SOB!

FXDX

Depends on how well you pay the maid.