FDX - The New and Improved Rumor Thread
07-28-2010, 07:33 AM
#44
Proponent of Hysteria
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: "Part of the problem." : JL
Posts: 1,053
Fine, Then explain why we should enhance the package that was good enough for you to bid it? I agree with others to hold out and make it part of the next contract. To think the company will not say after the fact that improving the LOA will have to come out of the contract pie is not remembering 4a2b.
And we can continue to improve upon it during contract negotiations. After all, 4000 a month is still less than half of what the typical expat gets in HKG.
Lets take this now, and fix it during negotiations.
07-28-2010, 07:38 AM
#45
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2006
Posts: 1,804
Why not get it right the first time. I do not understand your logic.
07-28-2010, 08:28 AM
#46
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2006
Position: 767 FO
Posts: 8,047
We voted to let the MEC Chairman agree to almost any change the company wants in regards to hkg or cdg. The NC does not need our permission. This discussion is in regards to a new FDA not the old ones. I still think it is stupid to negotiate only the parts of the contract the company wants to negotiate prior to openers.
07-28-2010, 10:03 AM
#48
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: Gear Monkey
Posts: 3,193
This statement is clearly contradictory:
"A pre-section 6 agreement doesn't use ANY of our collective capital...."
The company wants/needs a new FDA agreement to open a Europe FDA (without using the current FDA Section in the main contract).
That's leverage guys! --- that's absolutely negotiating capital!
...and it's part of the "collective capital" we have right now.
We'd absolutely be spending that in advance.
Once a new/separate FDA agreement is signed, that leverage/urgency/captial is gone.....gone!
Let's not bite on this little worm being dangled in front of us now.
Remember all the talk in 2007 that we must bargain for a FDA because we weren't in contract negotiations and don't have any other options ---- we'll now we are in negotiations and certainly do have other options.
Let's get 'er ALL done this fall/winter (...protecting Vacation/Retirement, saying "No Way" to PBS, getting reasonable pay increases across the board, finalizing 777 rates, etc...) and not let the company stretch out all of these other very important issues --- which affect all 4,600+ pilots --- until 2012.
Last edited by DLax85; 07-28-2010 at 10:37 AM. Reason: added verbiage
07-28-2010, 10:33 AM
#49
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2010
Position: Socket Drawer
Posts: 1,797
Regardless of how one feels about this, it is every pilot's responsibility to email their union rep and let him/her know your feelings on this matter. If you do not email your rep, you can't gripe about what they decide to do.
