Fly FDX

Yes, it would be extremely tough. But I'm sure their current options are pretty scary too. With economy and pay rates elsewhere, 1st year pay in HKG might be a blessing. There are other benefits of working at FedEx than just 1st year pay.

golfandfly

Oh, come on. By the time they finish indoc and new hire training, they will have 7-8 months of first year pay. It won't be a big money maker, but it isn't a death sentence either. Second year pay $139.69 (+7 for international override). They could also get the 2700/month (I think this is right) as well.

I'm not saying it's incredible, but that it isn't terrible either. I'd take it in a heartbeat if I was looking for a job. If it's too much for someone (and it might be for some), then maybe there are other companies to work for. Not to be an a-hole, but there are worse options out there.

skypine27

You haven't lived in Hong Kong, is all I have to say about that.

golfandfly

You're right about that. I have spent my fair share of time there though. It is very expensive, no doubt. Living conditions are not ideal, but neither are those for commuter pilots based in other high cost areas (NYC for example). Is HKG commutable? It would be painful (and a lot of time from home), but yes, it is commutable to some degree. A crashpad would obviously be required. If I read the LOA correctly, a pilot residing in a crashpad would not receive the $2700/month. Hopefully this isn't the case. Nonetheless, a potential new hire would have to ask himself if it is worth it. I guess it depends on each person's situation. It isn't like being deployed to Afghanistan for a year.

If I based my career on my first year earnings I wouldn't have a job in the airline industry. First of all, no one is saying that new hires will be sent to HKG. If they are, they will have to determine if they can take the hit for 7-8 months.

757golf

• I read where some of the days are 16 on and 12 off, are the majority of line in this format or are their a lot of 4 on, 3 off?
• Do most of the FedEx pilots live in one area on HKG or in the out lining areas?
• What is the issue with the ground transportation? I read where some pilots had gotten hurt?
• What is the equipment in HKG? Is it the 10/11 or 777?
• If you take the 2 year commitment and at the end of that commitment the company is still hiring…. and your standing bid has Mem? Does the company have to offer you the position in Mem before a new hire? I’m assuming a new hire class is going to be based in Mem on some equipment. I’m also assuming that you only have to do a two year commitment.
• What are the retirement numbers for FedEx? I have heard that FedEx has one of the oldest pilot groups in the industry, is this true?

I appreciate the time and answers.

Busdrivr

Do yourself a favor and read the previous post. Any new hire will most likely go to the 727 SO seat in Memphis. Plain and simple, isn't it? Live wherever you want. Just be in Memphis on time to start your trip. And yes you do need your FE written exam.

FDXLAG

Looking at their bid pack most of the lines are 7-9 on 10-12 off, with some exceptions. This is contrary to what the company told us when they were selling the LOA. If there is a new domicile the only thing for certain is dont believe what they tell you.

I dont know and will probably never find out.

2nd and a half world country probably as dangerous as Memphis but worse than most other places. It seems to me you spend a lot more time being transported in HKG than any other domicile.

Currently a bus domicile we suspect there will be a MD domicile soon. Company does not share their vision with us. When they do share it, there is a good chance it is tactical deception.

When your commitment is up you can bid for any open seat. Assuming there is a bid. They will move you last if they feel like it. My guess is a two year commitment will be at least 3 years on the rock.

Should be good in about 2 years. I suspect we are older than average. Search this forum and you will find some
good wags.

If what you are asking is Fedex a good place to work my guess is 96% of the pilots looking for jobs would say yes to Fedex. You could probably avoid HKG but sometime in the future they may take HKG volunteers 1st and tell the non vols to wait.

Busdrivr

See previous post.

FDXLAG

If you trust the van driver or anyone in the training department.

Gunter

I don't think anyone should assume newhires will not go to HKG. They barely got it filled when upward movement stopped and fears of furlough were rampant. Now, with vacancy bids that will likely continue as retirements start in earnest and new airplane need more bodies, it will be even tougher to fill the FO seats in HKG.

How long do you think they will delay HKG FOs bidding out? It may only be 2-5 newhires but it is possible.