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09-01-2010, 11:12 AM
#111
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Joined APC: Nov 2006
Position: 767 FO
Posts: 8,047
Guys we're talking "training pay" --- not "first year pay".
First year pay has gone up over the years as the pay tables have improved with each contract.
Training pay has not.
The $2000 you got per month on training pay is NOT the same $2000 per month those who came after you received.
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First year pay has gone up over the years as the pay tables have improved with each contract.
Training pay has not.
The $2000 you got per month on training pay is NOT the same $2000 per month those who came after you received.
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Who is the "we're" you are talking about? Who should I clear talking about 1st year pay with.
I agree that training pay is pathetic and should be tied to inflation. But $62 an hour equals about $4500 a month (before Obama) for a HKG FO is only marginally better and could cause us to lose some good guys and gals.If they actually know how to use money wisely no credit card usage should be required. Dave Ramsey Homepage - daveramsey.com
I do agree it needs to be increased at some point.
Boo
I do agree it needs to be increased at some point.
Boo
09-02-2010, 09:40 AM
#112
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Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: In the Purple Haze
Posts: 321
Remember Vnav Spd in climb when you are in the Vnav Climb phase of the Vnav profile. If you get Vnav Alt during the climb, the MCP altitude has captured. Even though you are still climbing, you will have to press the altitude intervention switch again to continue the climb if you are given a higher altitude. The only time you will have Vnav Pth while in the Vnav climb phase is if you have altitude constraints set on the Act Rte 1 Legs page and the MCP altitude set to an altitude higher than the constraint.
Still confused, PM me or give me a call.
Whale
09-02-2010, 08:44 PM
#114
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Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: 11 Capt
Posts: 509
If you are in Vnav, set the higher altitude in the MCP then press the altitude intervention switch.
Remember Vnav Spd in climb when you are in the Vnav Climb phase of the Vnav profile. If you get Vnav Alt during the climb, the MCP altitude has captured. Even though you are still climbing, you will have to press the altitude intervention switch again to continue the climb if you are given a higher altitude. The only time you will have Vnav Pth while in the Vnav climb phase is if you have altitude constraints set on the Act Rte 1 Legs page and the MCP altitude set to an altitude higher than the constraint.
Still confused, PM me or give me a call.
Whale
Remember Vnav Spd in climb when you are in the Vnav Climb phase of the Vnav profile. If you get Vnav Alt during the climb, the MCP altitude has captured. Even though you are still climbing, you will have to press the altitude intervention switch again to continue the climb if you are given a higher altitude. The only time you will have Vnav Pth while in the Vnav climb phase is if you have altitude constraints set on the Act Rte 1 Legs page and the MCP altitude set to an altitude higher than the constraint.
Still confused, PM me or give me a call.
Whale
Dammm... Just fly a douglas jet!
09-03-2010, 06:17 AM
#116
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Joined APC: Feb 2010
Position: Socket Drawer
Posts: 1,797
If you are in Vnav, set the higher altitude in the MCP then press the altitude intervention switch.
Remember Vnav Spd in climb when you are in the Vnav Climb phase of the Vnav profile. If you get Vnav Alt during the climb, the MCP altitude has captured. Even though you are still climbing, you will have to press the altitude intervention switch again to continue the climb if you are given a higher altitude. The only time you will have Vnav Pth while in the Vnav climb phase is if you have altitude constraints set on the Act Rte 1 Legs page and the MCP altitude set to an altitude higher than the constraint.
Still confused, PM me or give me a call.
Whale
Remember Vnav Spd in climb when you are in the Vnav Climb phase of the Vnav profile. If you get Vnav Alt during the climb, the MCP altitude has captured. Even though you are still climbing, you will have to press the altitude intervention switch again to continue the climb if you are given a higher altitude. The only time you will have Vnav Pth while in the Vnav climb phase is if you have altitude constraints set on the Act Rte 1 Legs page and the MCP altitude set to an altitude higher than the constraint.
Still confused, PM me or give me a call.
Whale
You forgot to use the words "populate" and "propagate", which leads me to think that you are not really a 777 instructor.
09-05-2010, 07:27 AM
#119
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Joined APC: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,224
Fdxlag,
The training pay is low, but the first year pay isn't bad. I doubt we will have a shortage of applicants. If I were on the streets or working a regional, I'd be all over HKG if that was what I was offered.
If I didn't have a savings, I'd live off credit cards if I needed too. I'm sure there would be some crashpads in HKG that wouldn't break the bank. If you ever commuted to New York, you would see similar situations. Way too many guys in a cramped apartment. After one year (the first three months would probably be in Memphis), they would be making pretty good money (139/hour). Not too bad.....
The training pay is low, but the first year pay isn't bad. I doubt we will have a shortage of applicants. If I were on the streets or working a regional, I'd be all over HKG if that was what I was offered.
If I didn't have a savings, I'd live off credit cards if I needed too. I'm sure there would be some crashpads in HKG that wouldn't break the bank. If you ever commuted to New York, you would see similar situations. Way too many guys in a cramped apartment. After one year (the first three months would probably be in Memphis), they would be making pretty good money (139/hour). Not too bad.....
09-05-2010, 08:32 AM
#120
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Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: MD-11 FO
Posts: 608
No wonder so many people think pilots are spoiled prima-donnas. Yes, $2000 a month in training may be a little rough. That's more than many Americans make. After training, the minimum you can make is 59.39/hr at 17 hours a week guaranteed. So worst case...first year you make $45,375. Per capita income (2000 census) was $21,587. In other words you will make more than double the amount average Americans make. And that is only for 1 short year. Second year minimum pay is $67,343,12 not including per diem. That is 17 hours a week at 59.39 (727 2nd officer.) No one makes that unless they don't want to work...reap what you sow. Some of my fellow aviators truly embarrass me. You have the same sense of entitlement as the welfare dregs that we all detest. If you don't like the pay scale, start your own business; become a professional athlete; become an actor...just stop whining like little high school *****e$ that want the latest iGadget because you DESERVE it!
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