FedExBusBoy

Drafting and using and abusing reserve guys.......simple

cheaper than hiring by far

fdxShark

They most likely will strictly control the flow out of the back seat until after peak.

2005 Blues

Problem is, they're short in all the airplanes that those guys from the back will be going to. Doesn't seem like it would help to slowly leak guys out of the back if that leaves them short in the 11 in MEM and ANC, 75 and 77 for peak. Training letter should be interesting.

Wouldn't be surprised to see them interviewing this fall with class dates after peak. Probably some pros and corporate guys coming online this fall?

Discuss.

bottomfeeder2

Any thoughts on when we'll see the training letter?

Knots2you

They do that, because they can, because they have done in the past, and they will continue to do in the future, because we allow them to do it, and do nothing to prevent. Simple as that. So unless things like this can be changed in the next contract, or unless this crew force decides to grow a pair, just sit back, and continue to go along for the ride.

Wildmanny

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Daniel Larusso

While this certainly isn't bad news for the poolies, I'm not sure it means that 90 S/O's need to come on line pretty quickly. The seniority list says that we have about 335 S/O, although I'm sure the actual number out on the line actually flying is lower for a number of reasons. That means roughly 245 of them will be going through some sort of training on this bid along with all of the other seats and fleets that will require training on this and the upcoming HKG and CGN bid. I think it will be awhile before they get to the bottom 90 out of those 245 SO's headed for training meaning that it's highly unlikely that they get to a point where they have 180 crews in the front with only 90 in the back before the active fleet starts dipping down. The FCIF says that the company plans on pulling out almost 2 active 727's a month between May 2011 and May 2012. If you divide 180 by the proposed active number of 727's in May 2011 you get 3.75 crews per a/c. If you divide 90 by the 2012 number you get pretty close at 3.3 crews per a/c-of course discounting the likely continued influx of age 65+ people. If anything, these numbers may show how much the 727 front seats may be in excess in May 2012 if nobody else were to bid off the plan between now and then(unlikely). I'm just guessing like everyone else, but it looks like they'll continue to press on with what they have probably until after next year's big bid which may end up having new hires go to the 757-although it wouldn't surprise me if they trickled in some corporate or pro types in the meantime. It took a long time for Flight Ops to get the bean counters to approve this bid plan, something tells me that they're going to want to watch it for awhile before approving hiring.

AerisArmis

Geez, can't you leave Foxhunter out of this?

Gunter

Besides the 777, which already had folks lined up for training before the bid, the most needy plane is the MD11.

Expect to see former ANC newhires get the short course out of the cheap seat quickly in Aug. Also expect other cheap seaters to quickly start 727 FO school so former ANC newhires in the FO seat can get the short course back to the MD11. Training for 757 and 777 slots in this bid may start slow but the priority will shift to them once short term MD11 issues are addressed.

Guess at the future -

The MD11 training will slow to a trickle after this deluge (remember when they said trng was going to all but shutdown? They were a little premature on that)

Newhires when the SO seat is too shallow and over 65 guys can't fill it fast enough. Sometime between Oct and Mar. Too many variables. How busy will training be during peak? How will freight loads look in Jan?

If another bid comes out before next year, expect newhires to 727 FO. 757 FO if they can't fill it.

Chainsaw

Uh, yea. Flux capacitor fluxing............