Freighter Captain

You can now add UPS's N250UP to the list of MD-11, aka "The Turtle", accidents. Enough damage was caused to upgrade the incident to accident status. MD-11 accident history here http://airlinesafety.com/faq/faq9.htm

Freighter Captain

It is interesting to note that this B 767 that slid off the runway in Houston was only classified an Incident! http://www.aviationpics.de/mish/2001/ups/ups.htm

dckozak

Any one know the fate of the crew??

FedEx1

The difference between these events is the extent of damage done to the aircraft.

If the aircraft has substantial damage, as defined by the NTSB as :

"Substantial damage means damage or failure which adversely affects
the structural strength, performance, or flight characteristics of the
aircraft, and which would normally require major repair or replacement
of the affected component. Engine failure or damage limited to an engine
if only one engine fails or is damaged, bent fairings or cowling, dented
skin, small punctured holes in the skin or fabric, ground damage to
rotor or propeller blades, and damage to landing gear, wheels, tires,
flaps, engine accessories, brakes, or wingtips are not considered
``substantial damage'' for the purpose of this part."

it will be classified as an accident. It is all as clear as mud in 49 CFR Part 830.

FreightDawg2

It is interesting to see that you too take the route of airing dirty laundry rather than suggesting a fix to the problem. The person that points out a problem bears a responsibility to suggest a solution. If not you are just a whiner.