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Old 06-27-2010, 07:18 AM
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Either that or they are betting on a double dip recession, which would **** in everyone's rice crispies...big time.
Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner!

"The Commerce Department revised down for the second time its estimate of economic growth in the first three months of 2010, now seeing 2.7% annualized growth. The department had initially said the economy grew 3.2% from January to March, then said it had grown 3%."

Anyone notice any trends or the amount of credit being destroyed in the monetary system? Anyone know how much credit yet to be destroyed?

Or how about this bit of trivia: Name the current UPS CEO who was recently the Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board of Atlanta.
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Originally Posted by ThreeSides
Or how about this bit of trivia: Name the current UPS CEO who was recently the Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board of Atlanta.
Unfortunately, the Fed has recently guessed wrong - a lot. Greenspan used to consult with the FedEx economists on a regular basis. Predictions are fine, but there is more to running a company than economic theory. I'm not sure that I'd want to have a former Fed chairman running the company. Is he a monetarist or a new Keynesian? Do you know? It might be useful information for you in terms of what he might do next.
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Originally Posted by ThreeSides
Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner!

"The Commerce Department revised down for the second time its estimate of economic growth in the first three months of 2010, now seeing 2.7% annualized growth. The department had initially said the economy grew 3.2% from January to March, then said it had grown 3%."

Anyone notice any trends or the amount of credit being destroyed in the monetary system? Anyone know how much credit yet to be destroyed?

Or how about this bit of trivia: Name the current UPS CEO who was recently the Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board of Atlanta.
So, his prophecy is a double dip? And, now he's trying his best to to fulfill it? I can't imagine anything worse than having a CPA(bean counter), literally running the company.


As our Guinness friends would say...Brilliant!!
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Originally Posted by ThreeSides
Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner!

"The Commerce Department revised down for the second time its estimate of economic growth in the first three months of 2010, now seeing 2.7% annualized growth. The department had initially said the economy grew 3.2% from January to March, then said it had grown 3%."

Anyone notice any trends or the amount of credit being destroyed in the monetary system? Anyone know how much credit yet to be destroyed?

Or how about this bit of trivia: Name the current UPS CEO who was recently the Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board of Atlanta.
The agitprop states we have a recovery, but the reality is there for all to see in real numbers. No "double dip", a single lackluster quarter and years or decades of monkey starving yet to go.

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Unfortunately, the Fed has recently guessed wrong - a lot. Greenspan used to consult with the FedEx economists on a regular basis. Predictions are fine, but there is more to running a company than economic theory. I'm not sure that I'd want to have a former Fed chairman running the company. Is he a monetarist or a new Keynesian? Do you know? It might be useful information for you in terms of what he might do next.
It has little to do with the individual company reaction and much to do with the global economy.

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So, his prophecy is a double dip? And, now he's trying his best to to fulfill it? I can't imagine anything worse than having a CPA(bean counter), literally running the company.


As our Guinness friends would say...Brilliant!!
Not a double dip, a very long and drawn out decline that will require major fundamental changes to worldwide economic policy if it is to be reversed.
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Originally Posted by ptarmigan
Unfortunately, the Fed has recently guessed wrong - a lot. Greenspan used to consult with the FedEx economists on a regular basis. Predictions are fine, but there is more to running a company than economic theory. I'm not sure that I'd want to have a former Fed chairman running the company. Is he a monetarist or a new Keynesian? Do you know? It might be useful information for you in terms of what he might do next.

You bring up an excellent point. I could certainly speculate, but I'm more interested in what you think.

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Old 06-27-2010, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ThreeSides
You bring up an excellent point. I could certainly speculate, but I'm more interested in what you think.
Frankly, it doesn't matter to me that much. If I worked for UPS I would research it, though. His views on economic theory could influence his predictions on the economy and, therefore, his plans for where the company needs to position itself to best survive/take advantage of any predicted changes.
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Originally Posted by ThreeSides

Or how about this bit of trivia: Name the current UPS CEO who was recently the Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board of Atlanta.
Yep. He helped wreck the US economy based on false assumptions. Now he is betting the farm on some more of those assumptions at UPS. Everyone from the top down is so wrapped up to save a penny, they don't see the nickels, dimes, and quarters falling out of their pocket when they bend over! Best case they lose some money. Worst case they lose money and fall (hurting themselves and maybe others they pull down with them).
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Old 06-27-2010, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ptarmigan
Frankly, it doesn't matter to me that much. If I worked for UPS I would research it, though. His views on economic theory could influence his predictions on the economy and, therefore, his plans for where the company needs to position itself to best survive/take advantage of any predicted changes.
I believe most would tell you that UPS is a reactive company. They stopped positioning themselves back in the 70's. They are just too big to be stopped
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Old 06-30-2010, 09:57 PM
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Need to cut costs. Fine.
Need to get more out of your employees. Fine.
Furlough employees. Union employees that is. While not reducing one management person. Pilots. Mechanics. Drivers. Makes you wonder????? ***!!
Forgot to mention 6.2% increase in compensation for DSD.

If you're going to fight the 800 lb gorilla, don't throw nice banners at them. If you're going to go at them with a baseball bat, why not use two.

Reminds me of a bag tag I saw on a Flt Attd.'s bag the other day.

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They have our attention, are we going to get their attention ?
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Pri 3,
Interesting.

UPS currently has a penny pincher at the top. That is the atmosphere he has created as a leader. Its in every department at Brown. Companies that reduce costs and cut corners normally end up losing big time in the end game.

This could be bad news for UPS long term. They are losing ground that they may never be able to break into (insert Gummer commment here). The rumor is FedEx is make HUGE purchases on the 777 (300F and 200). It really makes you scratch your head.

Hope I am wrong. Even though I got a reprieve till July, I want everyone still working and everyone on furlough to have a job, to have or come back to.
UPS hasd had penny pinchers at the top since 1907 nothing new since day one.

"end up losing big time in the end game" ???? Care to explain the last 100 years of UPS? You seem to have an axe to grind and thats all.
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