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Old 06-07-2010, 05:05 AM
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Instead of banners...why not use a page out of UPS' lobby book.

Cigars, Cognac, and some girl named "Candy Sweets"

Some of the Manglers probably asked each other, why the Indian Priest Association was welcoming them.
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Old 06-07-2010, 07:33 AM
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IMHO, successful furloughs for a company are like liquid heroin. If it works once to reduce headcount, avoid paying move packages, used for contract talks, or any other inflamatory union-busting it will be used again. For the bottom 300 this may not be your last furlough at UPS.
that is a statement i can agree with. While the company must exist (profits) for pilots to have jobs, the companies profit does not directly correlate to job security or pay. I would expect this to happen again. Perhaps ups has reached the maturity stage in its growth pattern.
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that is a statement i can agree with. While the company must exist (profits) for pilots to have jobs, the companies profit does not directly correlate to job security or pay. I would expect this to happen again. Perhaps ups has reached the maturity stage in its growth pattern.
One might argue that this furlough will dirve the FQS's right into our (IPA) arms. That in my mind will be the dumbest thing ups could of done. Time will tell!
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Just a simple question, why does the IPA want a group of scabs to join the union?
Scabs by any definition, hired as such, employed as such, acting as such.

Any ideas?
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Old 06-07-2010, 09:43 AM
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Just a simple question, why does the IPA want a group of scabs to join the union?
Scabs by any definition, hired as such, employed as such, acting as such.

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We dont want the people, we want the positions.

Good or bad, the people come with the jobs.
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Old 06-07-2010, 09:45 AM
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We dont want the people, we want the positions.

Good or bad, the people come with the jobs.
It doesn't have to be that way, but if you think scabs will help your union, go for it.
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Old 06-07-2010, 10:23 AM
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It doesn't have to be that way, but if you think scabs will help your union, go for it.
Did it help ALPA?
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Old 06-07-2010, 10:33 AM
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Did it help ALPA?
Alpo is another story unto itself, that may be the least of their problems.
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Default From "Confessions of a Union Buster"

"...counterorganizing drives, battling non-union employees as they struggled to win union representation.
... The supervisors served as my front line. I took them hostage on the first day and sent them to anti-union boot camp. I knew that people who didn't feel threatened wouldn't fight. So through hours of seminars, rallies, and one-on-one encounters, I taught the supervisors to despise and fear the union. I persuaded them that a union-organizing drive was a person attack on them, a referendum on their leadership skills, and an attempt to humiliate them. I was friendly, even jovial at times, but always unforgiving as I compelled each supervisor to feel he was somehow to blame for the union push and consequently obliged to defeat it..."

I sincerely hope this banner bonanza was an attempt to elevate morale among our own troops, and not really a part of the playbook for the organizing drive.
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Old 06-30-2010, 09:48 PM
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Starting to think, instead of nice banners and neat "I'm going to be furloughed" pins, why not use my dues money to save my job.

I know I'm not senior at UPS, but I pay the same percentage. Save my job, I don't need anymore dam# union pins from an airline I've been furloughed from.
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