Maintenance Checks
05-08-2010, 03:25 PM
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It is also the same at many 121 operators, and is common in the industry. Alot of 121 operators move the cards around with FAA approval to manage resources.
Same level of maintenenace is accomplished, just balance out the timeline to fit ops more efficiently. i.e. some inspections get moved up or back within prexisting allowable limits.
05-09-2010, 03:41 AM
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Ok, I understand the responses but you have to ask the question .............. Where is this all going and at a time when a company is making $$$ and been taking $$$ out of my pockets and yours .......................... ??? Why is there so much defense out there ? I would want to believe that IF company was not making $$$ on the profit side, then there would be CUTS in areas not done before. You can rob Peter to pay Paul but you have to pay it sooner or later !!!
05-09-2010, 05:54 AM
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Ok, I understand the responses but you have to ask the question .............. Where is this all going and at a time when a company is making $$$ and been taking $$$ out of my pockets and yours .......................... ??? Why is there so much defense out there ? I would want to believe that IF company was not making $$$ on the profit side, then there would be CUTS in areas not done before. You can rob Peter to pay Paul but you have to pay it sooner or later !!!
05-09-2010, 06:02 AM
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Ok, I understand the responses but you have to ask the question .............. Where is this all going and at a time when a company is making $$$ and been taking $$$ out of my pockets and yours .......................... ??? Why is there so much defense out there ? I would want to believe that IF company was not making $$$ on the profit side, then there would be CUTS in areas not done before. You can rob Peter to pay Paul but you have to pay it sooner or later !!!
If a "B" check is 22 hours and a "C" check is 42 hours and you shuffle the cards to make them both 32 hours what has been cut? No "robbing Peter" going on! Also, have you ever taken your vehicle in to be fixed? Typically the price quoted is from the established shop rates and times and not what it actually (usually much less) takes to accomplish the repair.
If this is all about the fact that company has robbed us (the pilot group) by their use of 4a2b you are going about it the wrong way. Maintenance has nothing to do with that!
05-09-2010, 02:52 PM
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My understanding is they used spend 48 hours on B checks, now reduced to 22 hours .......................... so what other maintenance is being reduced here at Purple ? Also, seems that Feds are turning the other cheek. The FSR reports seem to back up what I am hearing on time and money spent on maintenance. What say you ???
05-09-2010, 03:29 PM
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Reread Jetmech1's answer. It is accurate and succinct.
It is also the same at many 121 operators, and is common in the industry. Alot of 121 operators move the cards around with FAA approval to manage resources.
Same level of maintenenace is accomplished, just balance out the timeline to fit ops more efficiently. i.e. some inspections get moved up or back within prexisting allowable limits.
It is also the same at many 121 operators, and is common in the industry. Alot of 121 operators move the cards around with FAA approval to manage resources.
Same level of maintenenace is accomplished, just balance out the timeline to fit ops more efficiently. i.e. some inspections get moved up or back within prexisting allowable limits.
05-09-2010, 07:37 PM
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Sometimes extending times between check items or doing the work quicker is not better and yes sometimes the FAA, maintenance and the manufacturer get it wrong. This was the case in this crash http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.aska_Airlines_Flight_261
05-10-2010, 12:40 AM
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As jetmech1 says. It's all about the LEAN principles. Do a value stream map of the task required (C check) for example. Look at the the value added (VA) and non-value added (NVA) activity and then improve your work processes to reduce the NVA as much as possible. Great strides have been taken in both base and line MX in the US. There is no reduction in the quality of mx performed.
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