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04-21-2010, 06:28 AM

#21

MX727

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Quote:

Originally Posted by skypine27

No ones been fired.

Not true, read the above thread again.

04-21-2010, 06:37 AM

#22

hamfisted

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The company has a legal obligation/responsibility to takes steps to prevent what could be considered a "hostile work environment". If an employee utilizes company assets to acquire information that he or she then uses to do anything that could be legally interpreted as harassing a fellow employee, the company becomes liable for those actions. The only way to mitigate their liability is to take punitive and/or corrective against the offending employee. Like it or not....the company owns all info available on VIPS.

04-21-2010, 09:19 AM

#23

buffalosoldier

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If the receiver of a message regarding flying a disputed pairing is a nonmember, he/she is probably is NOT going to run to pro standards. Just a thouhgt.

04-21-2010, 09:51 AM

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OKLATEX

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Quote:

Originally Posted by buffalosoldier

If the receiver of a message regarding flying a disputed pairing is a nonmember, he/she is probably is NOT going to run to pro standards. Just a thouhgt.

Personally, I wasn't talking about DPs. To me this thread has turned into two subjects.

My point was Pro Standards should be used more as a tool for the pilot group as it is at other airlines.

04-21-2010, 11:44 AM

#25

JetJocF14

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Give you one guess who fired him!

[/QUOTE]

Could it be................... Satan.

04-21-2010, 11:52 AM

#26

R1200RT

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tennesseeflyboy

This is a travesty and just the mere idea that you can be fired over looking up information in VIPS is an outrage .............................. The paranoia continues

No one was fired over looking up information on VIPS. However, when you look up information about crew members then call and harass them on a recorded line/text or leave a recorded message all the company has to do is look and see who was gathering the needed information on THEIR computer system.
Bottom line you can't change what people do, and you can't really give anyone grief about doing what is contractually OK. Now DP are not OK ... in my book. But VLT, DFT, M/U, C/O and all the other things guys are mad about should be left alone, and addressed in the next contract.
Just my 2 cents

04-21-2010, 11:58 AM

#27

The Walrus

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They cannot prove who did the texting just by vips history. Nothing but harassment will come of this.

04-21-2010, 01:41 PM

#28

AFW_MD11

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News flash.......

A pilot at American Airlines.....several years ago now......got fired for what he wrote on the UNION web message boards - harrassing another pilot.

Not sure if he ever got his job back or not?

So.......be careful out there!

04-21-2010, 01:44 PM

#29

Gunter

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Walrus

They cannot prove who did the texting just by vips history. Nothing but harassment will come of this.

How ironic. Harassment of one leads to harassment of many.

04-21-2010, 01:57 PM

#30

ANCFRTDG

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I think that is the intended message mgmt wants to send out to the crewforce! We can express our disapproval of individuals flying DP's but should not do it in a threating tone, especially if you are going to leave an electronic signature behind.