UPS adds drivers, shrinks pilots
04-09-2010, 07:39 AM
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Ship a two day air from Boston to Tampa. Does it see the inside of an airplane? Does the two day service bring in extra revenue? How many NDA packages dont see a plane? Ship a Next Day Air from Miami to Tampa and it gets there the same as a ground package that you pay less for. Cut the cost of the delivery by using ground while making revenue of air. Thats profitability.
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04-09-2010, 08:04 AM
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That NDA will be delivered by 1030, whereas the ground package could be attempted at any time. THAT is what the customer pays extra for(hopefully).
04-09-2010, 08:56 AM
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A large part of the problem is that UPS was founded as a trucking company, and they've never been able to get over that mentality. When they started the "airline", they went and asked the truckers if they were interested in learning to fly the jets. Personally I believe that UPS management is still uneasy having to deal with pilots, because in a lot of cases, the pilots are as smart as, if not more so, than most of the managers. Not the (perceived) case with the box-throwers.
So just because the "airline" is the most profitable division of UPS, doesn't mean that the executives are committed to it. Left to their own devices, I'm sure they'd like to close the doors on the airline division, and go back to the way it was 50 years ago. It's because of the other air freight companies that UPS doesn't, understanding that they would loose even more market share.
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So just because the "airline" is the most profitable division of UPS, doesn't mean that the executives are committed to it. Left to their own devices, I'm sure they'd like to close the doors on the airline division, and go back to the way it was 50 years ago. It's because of the other air freight companies that UPS doesn't, understanding that they would loose even more market share.
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04-09-2010, 09:18 AM
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04-09-2010, 09:38 AM
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As a consumer, if I pay for a service or product, I expect that is the service or product I receive. If I spend the extra $$ for Next Day Air and UPS KNOWINGLY deceived me by charging "NDA" prices for something they put on a truck, I didn't receive the product/service I paid for. This is called contract law.
I do not consider this "profitability" but fraud.
I do not consider this "profitability" but fraud.
04-09-2010, 09:40 AM
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What does a UPS driver cost per hour and what does a UPS pilot cost per hour. That is the issue.
I think FedEx/UPS pilots asked for way too much on their last contract. Unions are great until they get so greedy that they put themselves out of a job. Just as the UAW.
I think FedEx/UPS pilots asked for way too much on their last contract. Unions are great until they get so greedy that they put themselves out of a job. Just as the UAW.
04-09-2010, 09:47 AM
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Also, a pilot should earn more, much more, than a truck driver.
04-09-2010, 09:53 AM
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I bet I am a bargain if you break it down to how many miles I can travel an hour verse the truck.
04-09-2010, 10:03 AM
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If you take into consideration the education, flight experience, and enormous responsiblity that I have flying all night long over many populated areas, I am not paid enough! Nothing against truck drivers, but I am not one. I may carry the same packages, but the reality is that I could learn and do their job in a matter of weeks or months where it would take the truck driver many many years to do what I do. Sorry, but greed has nothing to do with it my friend!!!!
04-09-2010, 10:04 AM
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Also, a pilot's "truck" is a lot more valuable that a feeder tractor/trailer. Compensation should be commensurate with responsibility for a higher value asset. Just glad I don't have to put on chains....
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