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Old 04-11-2010, 07:35 AM
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The fact is that you went to VCP to enhance your layover, and enhanced your paycheck when we have been asked not to do that. the rest has been a deflection of that fact which none of us understand or care about. Come back to the team!
Surely not the first or last pilot to surrender their morals for an extra night at the Red Lion.
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Old 04-11-2010, 07:44 AM
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he couldn't care less about the solidarity policy. he only cares about his paycheck.

greed is a powerful thing.
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Old 04-11-2010, 08:04 AM
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he couldn't care less about the solidarity policy. he only cares about his paycheck.

greed is a powerful thing.
Weatherman,

You don't seem to see the contradiction in your statement. My understanding is that UPS offered to stop the furlough (thereby reducing associated downgrades and forced displacements to ANC) if we accepted a lesser guarantee (like FedEx). That would require lesser paychecks. It seems to me that by refusing that offer the entire membership would meet your definition of "greedy."
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Old 04-11-2010, 08:20 AM
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Weatherman,

You don't seem to see the contradiction in your statement. My understanding is that UPS offered to stop the furlough (thereby reducing associated downgrades and forced displacements to ANC) if we accepted a lesser guarantee (like FedEx). That would require lesser paychecks. It seems to me that by refusing that offer the entire membership would meet your definition of "greedy."
You know why that wasn't an option. You really need to shut your man-pleaser. Do us a favor, if you're gonna pick up trips or pad your line go to places without internet so you can be spared from your drivel.
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Old 04-11-2010, 08:33 AM
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They aren't telling everyone to stop earning a living, just fly your line. To make it more reasonable, you can trade up 5 hours.

Nice try deflecting criticism. You justify being greedy by talking about these guys possible career earnings. Weak. Others have resisted the urge, but since it's just little ol' you in Miami, what difference would that make? What if everyone else thought like you?

A real piece of work...
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Originally Posted by Slice
You know why that wasn't an option. You really need to shut your man-pleaser. Do us a favor, if you're gonna pick up trips or pad your line go to places without internet so you can be spared from your drivel.
Actually, I do not know why that wasn't an option.

As for my postings, I have not started any threads, just replied to posts, such as yours.
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Old 04-11-2010, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Roberto
Weatherman,

You don't seem to see the contradiction in your statement. My understanding is that UPS offered to stop the furlough (thereby reducing associated downgrades and forced displacements to ANC) if we accepted a lesser guarantee (like FedEx). That would require lesser paychecks. It seems to me that by refusing that offer the entire membership would meet your definition of "greedy."
maybe they did, and maybe they didn't. Maybe that makes us all greedy, I don't care. That doesn't make it an excuse to go off of the reservation
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Old 04-11-2010, 10:18 AM
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Hey, could you guys move this to FDX- More Memphis Honors, I would like to see it shut down by COB today.
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Old 04-11-2010, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Roberto
Weatherman,

You don't seem to see the contradiction in your statement. My understanding is that UPS offered to stop the furlough (thereby reducing associated downgrades and forced displacements to ANC) if we accepted a lesser guarantee (like FedEx). That would require lesser paychecks. It seems to me that by refusing that offer the entire membership would meet your definition of "greedy."
Roberto,

I was at the IPA meeting where SF presented the company's demands for concessions to stop the furlough. It was much more than a reduction of guarantee. IIRC in addition to a guarantee reduction it included going back to 2008 pay scales (which represents a larger percentage cut to junior pilots), a 2 or 3% reduction in B plan contributions, and PBS. There were several more items in addition. And no snap backs IIRC. (Can someone here who was at that GMM confirm my statements?) You're statement that simply a reduced guarantee would stop the furlough is disingenuous.

I can not in my life recall when an airline furloughed pilots when they were making any money, much less billions of dollars profit and giving bonuses and raises to management.

So am I greedy or is it that I just don't like to have a large object shoved up my ass? You have some nerve.

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Roberto,

You are the penultimate bid number cruncher. That's my compliment. It leads me to this:

Figures LIE and LIARS figure.
Please stop rationalizing in public. It's embarrassing.

You could have been part of something great in difficult times.

You chose against it. It's to the point of flame baiting, which doesn't help anyone unless fed by schadenfreude.

'Nuff said.
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