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03-10-2010, 09:53 AM

#61

Night_Hawk

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Originally Posted by 767pilot

I don't see iAt some point they would come under our work rules and it might even take more than 180 people to do the same work.

I agree w/ the fact that they are more flexible when it comes to flying. But, would UPS let them continue to do their "paper work." duties.
Don't we always say that they really don't do anything but sit as super reserves?
SO, my question is do they actually do 180 jobs worth of training and flying? vs. their time spent on conference calls and writing MRBs.

concerned, we better not screw this up,

N-H

03-10-2010, 11:38 AM

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Archie Bunker

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Originally Posted by Buck92

I actually thought the language of the amendment in question allowed only for the EB to "move forward" on bringing the FQMs onboard. I did NOT think the EB could determine terms of integration (seniority list) on their own without a vote. I'm calling shennanigans until Salty or someone can produce language that states otherwise...

I can't find the verbiage anywhere. I tossed all of that election paraphernalia months ago. I just checked Ballotpoint, and it only lists the results of the election. Maybe it's hidden somewhere on the IPA website...I haven't tried there yet.

03-10-2010, 11:43 AM

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What makes you think that it wasn't attempted years ago?? The Miller administrations weren't exactly known for their transparency.

The fact is...I don't know if it was attempted years ago. That's why I'm asking. If not, why not?

I'm curious if BM cut some side deal with the company agreeing not to attempt integration of the FQS' onto our seniority list. Do any of the 88'ers on here know the deal?

03-10-2010, 12:06 PM

#64

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Originally Posted by crash84

Congratulations FP!

Thanks! We are very very excited (not looking forward to the first couple months when you are up every 2-3 hours.....LOL)!

03-10-2010, 01:27 PM

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Umm... I think the NMB determines the terms of integration assuming this gets that far. Our C&B vote was mainly a message.

I don't recall any time where they have done that. It's not one of their duties. Worst case, integrations are done by arbitrators if the two sides can not agree, or the swingline method when one group has a particular advantage over another

As for the vote being a message...I believe a similar "send a message" vote got th eball rolling for the Iraq war

03-10-2010, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Night_Hawk

SO, my question is do they actually do 180 jobs worth of training and flying? vs. their time spent on conference calls and writing MRBs.

concerned, we better not screw this up,

N-H

good questions and I think that they have been covered pretty well on the bar and grill

03-10-2010, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 767pilot

good questions and I think that they have been covered pretty well on the bar and grill

Bar and grill now that's one reliable source..

03-10-2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Freightpuppy

Thanks! We are very very excited (not looking forward to the first couple months when you are up every 2-3 hours.....LOL)!

FP, im going to refrain from rattling your cage until the baby is out. I luv babies and respect pregnant moms so hurry up and deflate because it's getting boring.

03-10-2010, 03:44 PM

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Bar and grill now that's one reliable source..

You get better information on something like that from a bunch of people hiding behind fake names?

03-10-2010, 03:55 PM

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FP, im going to refrain from rattling your cage until the baby is out. I luv babies and respect pregnant moms so hurry up and deflate because it's getting boring.

Ha ha...sorry, I have a little while to go. Plus you have to take into account the first few months afterward cuz I'll probably be MIA trying to get some sleep.