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Old 03-09-2010, 03:22 PM
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All this talk about cards. Teamsters, ALPA, who has seen that it is the IPA? Or it could be a new independent union started by the Managers who don't want to give up there Captain deal via seniority integration with us. The managers (FQS) are afraid to have an Xmas party together because the company might think they are forming a union.
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Saw the post myself last night, then it was gone,,,
Was it only a post that got edited, or did an entire thread get pulled down?
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How important is extending recall rights or improving furlough language to the 2500 IPA'ers? How many of them will be willing to give something up during contract negotiations for the furloughees or for an international domicile language for the possibility of SZX?
Can you not give us a little credit? Why did we get an end rate of almost 150 an hour for second year guys when it didn't help any of us, or any of you? That was a rhetorical question. I know that some of you are heading for the doors but when it comes to 2016 and beyond, the panic is way to early
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Can you not give us a little credit? Why did we get an end rate of almost 150 an hour for second year guys when it didn't help any of us, or any of you? That was a rhetorical question. I know that some of you are heading for the doors but when it comes to 2016 and beyond, the panic is way to early
No credit can be given to the long time IPA pilots. It has to be the IPA's fault that they are getting laid off, it can't be UPS's fault.
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Old 03-09-2010, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 757upspilot
No credit can be given to the long time IPA pilots. It has to be the IPA's fault that they are getting laid off, it can't be UPS's fault.
Love your comment about the managers XMAS party. Looks like these guys may be getting tired of the fuzzy end of the lollypop
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Originally Posted by 757upspilot
No credit can be given to the long time IPA pilots. It has to be the IPA's fault that they are getting laid off, it can't be UPS's fault.
Please remember, very importantly, that the majority of the 300 do NOT feel this way. The young AND the old have bad apples
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Is the B&G crowd politely ignoring this? It's interesting to watch how the tenor of the forum changes with the politicians who are in office.

- "What elephant? I didn't see any elephant. There absolutely is NO ELEPHANT in this room!"
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Originally Posted by Tigerpilot1995
Please remember, very importantly, that the majority of the 300 do NOT feel this way. The young AND the old have bad apples
I know this, which resulted in my participation in the MOU's and the current contractual open time and ja activity and the placing of training and vacation on days on. The bad apples stand out and are vocal and the junior ones have a detrimental impact on the efforts of the majority. It has been noted that a JA attempt went all the way to the #1 on fleet who also happens to be #1 on the overall list.
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Originally Posted by 767pilot
Love your comment about the managers XMAS party. Looks like these guys may be getting tired of the fuzzy end of the lollypop
This comment came from a long time FQS who tried to put an Xmas party together in SDF.
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Originally Posted by 757upspilot
No credit can be given to the long time IPA pilots. It has to be the IPA's fault that they are getting laid off, it can't be UPS's fault.
I never once said any of this is any IPAers fault. I only blame UPS for making a business decision that will hurt all of our families one way or another. 100% IPA

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