no extra at Fed Ex!
#71
[QUOTE=fdx727pilot] turning down extra flying is not all you need to do. Get educated on our union. [QUOTE]
Man you are right but it is a GREAT place to start. While the union hasn't called for any job action it is clear that they need our help and it seems that a lot of guys are stepping up to the plate.
As the union VP told me "you'll get a contract when you decide you want one" In other words take the blinders off and stop doing extra work. He didn't end the sentence with dumba$$ but it was implied. At this point there is no amount of money that would get me to undermine the collective effort of pilots/union. But, there are still some guys (fewer and fewer) that think their families are more important than mine and the other 4700 pilot's families. We could all use the extra, but are trying to help the collective good instead of short sighted personal gains.
Man you are right but it is a GREAT place to start. While the union hasn't called for any job action it is clear that they need our help and it seems that a lot of guys are stepping up to the plate.
As the union VP told me "you'll get a contract when you decide you want one" In other words take the blinders off and stop doing extra work. He didn't end the sentence with dumba$$ but it was implied. At this point there is no amount of money that would get me to undermine the collective effort of pilots/union. But, there are still some guys (fewer and fewer) that think their families are more important than mine and the other 4700 pilot's families. We could all use the extra, but are trying to help the collective good instead of short sighted personal gains.
#72
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Posts: 503
Originally Posted by fecav8r
My bad. I didn't really say it right. My point is that if I have to drop 3 trips off my regular line because of family issues, should I:
a: not make them up
b: make up 2 trips at ava or vlt while not increasing my overall BLG and leave a trip in OT
c: make up 3 trips at straight time
I'm just trying to figure out what is better for "the cause"
a: not make them up
b: make up 2 trips at ava or vlt while not increasing my overall BLG and leave a trip in OT
c: make up 3 trips at straight time
I'm just trying to figure out what is better for "the cause"
But protecting min days off would solve all these issues quickly. I've heard 30% of our total flying is done with overtime flying (Draft, Vol, VAC, Carryover, flex, training, Mgt). I don't know if that's correct but I'm sure it is a big number. After the Tallahassee crash, Cheever told a crew while jump seating that the company crunched the numbers for the NTSB and if they eliminated all extra flying then we would have to hire over 1500 more pilots. Don't know how accurate that is but..
#73
Originally Posted by R1200RT
But, there are still some guys (fewer and fewer) that think their families are more important than mine and the other 4700 pilot's families. We could all use the extra, but are trying to help the collective good instead of short sighted personal gains.
#74
Max Open
Originally Posted by Huck
Brilliant. I learn something every day!
I'll give it a try.....
BTW - what does "Max Open" tell you? Is it the # of reserves?
I'll give it a try.....
BTW - what does "Max Open" tell you? Is it the # of reserves?
#75
Originally Posted by MD11HOG
Max open is one half the number of reserves they have for that day. So, if max open is 5, they have 10 guys left on reserve.
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#76
New Hire
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: MD-11 Capt
Posts: 6
Originally Posted by Fedex999999
Well, if it all goes thru, they agreed on an agency shop. So if you don't join the union, you still have to pay an assessment, the same cost as the dues. But not sure if that included instructor types.
The bad thing about signing the agency shop deal is that if you are a non member now, you continue to be a non member and not pay dues. The precedence is set. Agency shop will only apply to new hires and current members. If you resign from the union at a later time you continue to pay dues.
#77
R U Sure?
Originally Posted by FDX11Driver
The bad thing about signing the agency shop deal is that if you are a non member now, you continue to be a non member and not pay dues. The precedence is set. Agency shop will only apply to new hires and current members. If you resign from the union at a later time you continue to pay dues.
Where did you get this information?
#80
New Hire
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Posts: 7
Not that way at ASA
Currently at ASA and if you do not join, as a new hire, you pay dues to a fund not the union. PS I am a curent ALPA member and always have been 9 years. Our support from nationals has us running a four year contract into its 8th year.
Good Luck gentlemen and keep fighting the good fight.
PS I need a sponsor real bad. Have four letters of rec. but no sponsor.
Next to a strike the only thing management will listen to is the bottom line being hurt by the legal means of the unionized employees.
Good Luck gentlemen and keep fighting the good fight.
PS I need a sponsor real bad. Have four letters of rec. but no sponsor.
Next to a strike the only thing management will listen to is the bottom line being hurt by the legal means of the unionized employees.
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