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08-05-2006, 07:20 PM
#31
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Originally Posted by MD114Ever
Why would anyone correct or have a problem with another for flying CIC drop at volunteer instead of flying the makeup at straight time? As long as the individual is not raising their BLG above a normal monthly BLG, I would rather the individual inflict a little more pain on the company by making up sub or CIC at 150% instead of 100%.
08-05-2006, 07:29 PM
#32
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Originally Posted by RedeyeAV8r
Making the Company pay 150% isn't inflicting pain......They can obviously afford to pay. Otherwise why would they Draft a Capt $309/draft rate for an FO seat...............That tells me they can easily afford to pay FO's $206 per hour in the next contract.....................
Nope DFT/VLT doesn't inflict any pain. It ain't about the money......................
When the freight stops moving b-cuz there ain't no one to fly it........well.....thats a different story! Get it?
Nope DFT/VLT doesn't inflict any pain. It ain't about the money......................
When the freight stops moving b-cuz there ain't no one to fly it........well.....thats a different story! Get it?
I agree that we shouldn't be flying DFT or VLT or any kind of MU to pad our BLGs. But, my point is that if I have lost credit hours from my normal BLG line, then it's silly to make it up at straight time.
An ideal situation would be to knock out your entire line with CIC or sub and then fly 2/3 of your BLG credit hours at 150% and get paid what you would normally get paid for working a full month.
08-05-2006, 07:42 PM
#33
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Originally Posted by MD114Ever
Using your logic, if I find myself in a sub situation or I have a Carry in Conflict, in order to bring my BLG back up to a normal BLG, I should fly the trips scheduling offers at straight pay. That doesn't make sense.
I agree that we shouldn't be flying DFT or VLT or any kind of MU to pad our BLGs. But, my point is that if I have lost credit hours from my normal BLG line, then it's silly to make it up at straight time.
An ideal situation would be to knock out your entire line with CIC or sub and then fly 2/3 of your BLG credit hours at 150% and get paid what you would normally get paid for working a full month.
I agree that we shouldn't be flying DFT or VLT or any kind of MU to pad our BLGs. But, my point is that if I have lost credit hours from my normal BLG line, then it's silly to make it up at straight time.
An ideal situation would be to knock out your entire line with CIC or sub and then fly 2/3 of your BLG credit hours at 150% and get paid what you would normally get paid for working a full month.
08-05-2006, 07:49 PM
#34
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Originally Posted by MD114Ever
I agree that we shouldn't be flying DFT or VLT or any kind of MU to pad our BLGs. But, my point is that if I have lost credit hours from my normal BLG line, then it's silly to make it up at straight time.
An ideal situation would be to knock out your entire line with CIC or sub and then fly 2/3 of your BLG credit hours at 150% and get paid what you would normally get paid for working a full month.
An ideal situation would be to knock out your entire line with CIC or sub and then fly 2/3 of your BLG credit hours at 150% and get paid what you would normally get paid for working a full month.
As for me.
I don't protect carry over.
I have close to 450 hours in my M/U bank.
I use all my vacation and then some.
My thoughts on this may change when I see a ratified TA.
Remember to the company it ain't about the money. Having to pay 150% doesn't punish them. Leaving Freight on the ramp does and having to pay for the loss of delivery/ mis delivery does.
08-05-2006, 07:54 PM
#35
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Originally Posted by RedeyeAV8r
Look do what you need to do........
As for me.
I don't protect carry over.
I have close to 450 hours in my M/U bank.
I use all my vacation and then some.
My thoughts on this may change when I see a ratified TA.
Remember to the company it ain't about the money. Having to pay 150% doesn't punish them. Leaving Freight on the ramp does and having to pay for the loss of delivery/ mis delivery does.
As for me.
I don't protect carry over.
I have close to 450 hours in my M/U bank.
I use all my vacation and then some.
My thoughts on this may change when I see a ratified TA.
Remember to the company it ain't about the money. Having to pay 150% doesn't punish them. Leaving Freight on the ramp does and having to pay for the loss of delivery/ mis delivery does.
08-05-2006, 07:56 PM
#36
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Originally Posted by fecav8r
So in this logic we should all drop all of our trips and not make anything up no matter what. Are advocating now that if we have to drop a trip we don't make it up for any reason?
08-05-2006, 08:11 PM
#37
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Originally Posted by RedeyeAV8r
Look do what you need to do........
As for me.
I don't protect carry over.
I have close to 450 hours in my M/U bank.
I use all my vacation and then some.
My thoughts on this may change when I see a ratified TA.
Remember to the company it ain't about the money. Having to pay 150% doesn't punish them. Leaving Freight on the ramp does and having to pay for the loss of delivery/ mis delivery does.
As for me.
I don't protect carry over.
I have close to 450 hours in my M/U bank.
I use all my vacation and then some.
My thoughts on this may change when I see a ratified TA.
Remember to the company it ain't about the money. Having to pay 150% doesn't punish them. Leaving Freight on the ramp does and having to pay for the loss of delivery/ mis delivery does.
I agree, if they are calling for draft, then they are getting into a bind (regardless of your BLG). The time is NOW for us to stand up together and just say no more draft. Lets send our negotiating committee back holding some strong cards.
For the last 3 months I've been below the Low line CH and I have well over 600 hours in my M/U bank. Heck the M/U bank is just a company gimick to make you feel like your losing money so they can get more straight time work out of you.. just like C/O
Lets finish this thing, I'm getting tired of drinking cheap beer
08-06-2006, 06:31 AM
#39
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I think a better way to judge extra work is whether or not a pilot is protecting min days off. Doing this circumvents the issues raised above about getting drafted to makeup time lost, etc. The pilots who have less than min days off a month are the real problem children.
08-06-2006, 07:01 AM
#40
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Originally Posted by FDXFLYR
I think a better way to judge extra work is whether or not a pilot is protecting min days off. Doing this circumvents the issues raised above about getting drafted to makeup time lost, etc. The pilots who have less than min days off a month are the real problem children.
OK let me get this straight. I bid a line with 13 days off and it pays just over avg BLG. I am supposed to drop trips on this line to get back to min days off? What happened to just flying 100%?
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