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03-05-2010, 06:52 PM
#21
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03-05-2010, 07:47 PM
#22
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Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: leaning to the left
Posts: 4,184
03-06-2010, 05:58 AM
#23
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Joined APC: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,931
You probably don't notice it where you sit but 727 morale was in the crapper.
I am also glad the averages came up on the Bus and MD. I'm sure morale was hurting on the Bus too.
Without this agreement, things would have looked pretty bleak for the 727 folks. I'm thankful.
Last edited by Gunter; 03-06-2010 at 07:51 AM. Reason: Thankful
03-06-2010, 07:57 AM
#25
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The company will now have to pay lots of buy up if they continue down the path of making our manning unreasonably lopsided.
My only question is why did it take a settlement to make them do what should have been doing all along? Perhaps the managers working closest to pilots have been rewarded for their 'take no prisoners' style of leadership for so long they couldn't summon any integrity to go a different direction. The well was dry.
Now the push will be to keep buy up as low as possible. A goal the bean counters understand and can rally around. Hopefully that will be good for the pilots too. But I don't pretend that any manager low enough to interface with pilots cares if it does.
My only question is why did it take a settlement to make them do what should have been doing all along? Perhaps the managers working closest to pilots have been rewarded for their 'take no prisoners' style of leadership for so long they couldn't summon any integrity to go a different direction. The well was dry.
Now the push will be to keep buy up as low as possible. A goal the bean counters understand and can rally around. Hopefully that will be good for the pilots too. But I don't pretend that any manager low enough to interface with pilots cares if it does.
Last edited by Gunter; 03-06-2010 at 09:37 AM.
03-06-2010, 08:58 AM
#26
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Joined APC: Apr 2006
Position: MD-11 Captain
Posts: 4,304
MD MEM seem to have more city purity also ... I suppose some folks like that?
A surprising amount of CDG (Paris) - HKG (Hong Kong) - CDG mid trip flights?
I'm surprised to see how many west coast deadheads (LAX. LAS, PHX) there are? Why wouldn't the LAX based guys fly these trips?
A surprising amount of CDG (Paris) - HKG (Hong Kong) - CDG mid trip flights?
I'm surprised to see how many west coast deadheads (LAX. LAS, PHX) there are? Why wouldn't the LAX based guys fly these trips?
03-06-2010, 09:06 AM
#27
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2008
Position: AERO
Posts: 48
Standard union bashing 101 before contract negotiations... The company got lucky to be able to have the "economy" as a great tool to twist everyone just a little extra. They took so much from us for so long, divided the pilot group, and now when they just start to give a little back, everyone feels like the company is being so generous...just to get back to where we were before.
03-06-2010, 10:54 AM
#28
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Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: On the corner, covered in Stickum
Posts: 376
It's about time something went to someone other than the most senior.
You probably don't notice it where you sit but 727 morale was in the crapper.
I am also glad the averages came up on the Bus and MD. I'm sure morale was hurting on the Bus too.
Without this agreement, things would have looked pretty bleak for the 727 folks. I'm thankful.
You probably don't notice it where you sit but 727 morale was in the crapper.
I am also glad the averages came up on the Bus and MD. I'm sure morale was hurting on the Bus too.
Without this agreement, things would have looked pretty bleak for the 727 folks. I'm thankful.
03-06-2010, 11:12 AM
#29
Bourgeoisie
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: 787 SO
Posts: 617
Standard union bashing 101 before contract negotiations... The company got lucky to be able to have the "economy" as a great tool to twist everyone just a little extra. They took so much from us for so long, divided the pilot group, and now when they just start to give a little back, everyone feels like the company is being so generous...just to get back to where we were before.
They always look greedy. It is our turn.
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