UPS pay details
07-06-2006, 10:38 AM
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UPS pay details
What is your current duty rig, min pay per day, min pay per duty period, and trip rig, and are there any changes in the TA?
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07-06-2006, 11:56 AM
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"What is your current duty rig" 2:1
"min pay per day" depends on the rig
"min pay per duty period" 4
"trip rig" 3.75:1
"are there any changes in the TA?"
The only change is that back side of the clock flying (if your duty period touches 0230-0459) has a duty rig of 1.5:1
So, a ten hour duty night will pay 7.5 hours vs the 6.4 trip rig under the current agreement. If you did five nights in a row, that's 5.5 hours extra credit. What I'm trying to figure out is, if a normal line of night flying used to be worth 75 hours, now that line is going to be 86 hours, which is right at the domestic construction cap. Perhaps our "raise" didn't come so much in hourly rates but in the typical week on, week off, night line being worth 11 hours more a pay period for the same work. Only guys doing night hard lines will see that, too, not the day flyers or reserves.
We'll have to wait and see how the sample lines look.
I'm still voting no cause of the retro BS and the length of the contract. The signing bonus and 5 year length, under the circumstances, are deal killers for me.
"min pay per day" depends on the rig
"min pay per duty period" 4
"trip rig" 3.75:1
"are there any changes in the TA?"
The only change is that back side of the clock flying (if your duty period touches 0230-0459) has a duty rig of 1.5:1
So, a ten hour duty night will pay 7.5 hours vs the 6.4 trip rig under the current agreement. If you did five nights in a row, that's 5.5 hours extra credit. What I'm trying to figure out is, if a normal line of night flying used to be worth 75 hours, now that line is going to be 86 hours, which is right at the domestic construction cap. Perhaps our "raise" didn't come so much in hourly rates but in the typical week on, week off, night line being worth 11 hours more a pay period for the same work. Only guys doing night hard lines will see that, too, not the day flyers or reserves.
We'll have to wait and see how the sample lines look.
I'm still voting no cause of the retro BS and the length of the contract. The signing bonus and 5 year length, under the circumstances, are deal killers for me.
07-06-2006, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by de727ups
"What is your current duty rig" 2:1
"min pay per day" depends on the rig
"min pay per duty period" 4
"trip rig" 3.75:1
"are there any changes in the TA?"
The only change is that back side of the clock flying (if your duty period touches 0230-0459) has a duty rig of 1.5:1
So, a ten hour duty night will pay 7.5 hours vs the 6.4 trip rig under the current agreement. If you did five nights in a row, that's 5.5 hours extra credit. What I'm trying to figure out is, if a normal line of night flying used to be worth 75 hours, now that line is going to be 86 hours, which is right at the domestic construction cap. .
"min pay per day" depends on the rig
"min pay per duty period" 4
"trip rig" 3.75:1
"are there any changes in the TA?"
The only change is that back side of the clock flying (if your duty period touches 0230-0459) has a duty rig of 1.5:1
So, a ten hour duty night will pay 7.5 hours vs the 6.4 trip rig under the current agreement. If you did five nights in a row, that's 5.5 hours extra credit. What I'm trying to figure out is, if a normal line of night flying used to be worth 75 hours, now that line is going to be 86 hours, which is right at the domestic construction cap. .
When we began the Postal flying (almost all day stuff) our system form changed........we now have many trips (Domestically) that use to be pure Night....so you could stay on the same Body clock schedule.
To sum it up...........many (not all) of our trips have day-night-day-night type swaps.......really hard on hte body. Some of our trips begin at 0200 and fly until 11:45 am looking into the sun for the last 3 1/2 HOURS........OUCH!!
We also have what we call trip rig wash out............where you might night actually get credit for that 7:45 block hour day. The hard time gets washed out in the trip rig so you really only make 6 hours for that duty period when you actually blocked more.
07-06-2006, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by de727ups
"What is your current duty rig" 2:1
"min pay per day" depends on the rig
"min pay per duty period" 4
"trip rig" 3.75:1
"are there any changes in the TA?"
The only change is that back side of the clock flying (if your duty period touches 0230-0459) has a duty rig of 1.5:1
So, a ten hour duty night will pay 7.5 hours vs the 6.4 trip rig under the current agreement. If you did five nights in a row, that's 5.5 hours extra credit. What I'm trying to figure out is, if a normal line of night flying used to be worth 75 hours, now that line is going to be 86 hours, which is right at the domestic construction cap. Perhaps our "raise" didn't come so much in hourly rates but in the typical week on, week off, night line being worth 11 hours more a pay period for the same work. Only guys doing night hard lines will see that, too, not the day flyers or reserves.
We'll have to wait and see how the sample lines look.
I'm still voting no cause of the retro BS and the length of the contract. The signing bonus and 5 year length, under the circumstances, are deal killers for me.
"min pay per day" depends on the rig
"min pay per duty period" 4
"trip rig" 3.75:1
"are there any changes in the TA?"
The only change is that back side of the clock flying (if your duty period touches 0230-0459) has a duty rig of 1.5:1
So, a ten hour duty night will pay 7.5 hours vs the 6.4 trip rig under the current agreement. If you did five nights in a row, that's 5.5 hours extra credit. What I'm trying to figure out is, if a normal line of night flying used to be worth 75 hours, now that line is going to be 86 hours, which is right at the domestic construction cap. Perhaps our "raise" didn't come so much in hourly rates but in the typical week on, week off, night line being worth 11 hours more a pay period for the same work. Only guys doing night hard lines will see that, too, not the day flyers or reserves.
We'll have to wait and see how the sample lines look.
I'm still voting no cause of the retro BS and the length of the contract. The signing bonus and 5 year length, under the circumstances, are deal killers for me.
de727ups,
Im not sure I understand where you are getting the 86 hours credit v/s the 75hours credit.
7.5 hours credit x 5 days flying = 37.5 hours credit
37.5 hours credit x 2 weeks flying = 75 hours credit...
What am I not understanding here. Where did you get the 86 hours credit from?
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