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01-26-2010, 02:39 PM

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navigatro

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I think PBS is great.

Don't you guys watch "Antiques Roadshow"?

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Read on the B&G interesting theories that MOU delay related to Mechanic's contract negotiations or FAA fatigue rule postponement.

01-26-2010, 03:39 PM

#12

Moondog

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Originally Posted by navigatro

I had a PBR last weekend, it was tasty!!

01-26-2010, 04:58 PM

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Section Eight

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Originally Posted by 1800 RVR

PBS--------> NO NO NO!

Before anyone comes on here and says how great it was at Brand X, remember that our system is NOTHING like the pax guys and no matter what rules and parameters are negotiated, UPS doesn't even follow our current contract! As many have said, if UPS REALLY wants this, that fact right there should scare the crap out of you to say NO to PBS.

Not No, Hell no. Think of this, all your vacation and training on DAYS OFF! Add to that, think we are overstaffed by x amount now? Try 2x with PBS, thats what the underlying reason is. More savings, less people, a thinner bottom line, and a bigger bonus for some. Every day we hang out is yet another day on the job. I am positive that the EB is not even entertaining this, so this is all just conjecture anyway. In the meantime I like the PBR idea instead.

01-26-2010, 07:00 PM

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767pilot

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Originally Posted by 320Driver

Heard preferential bidding system VERY prominate in the discussions. JUST SAY NO folks! Good luck, you all...

How would you know anything that was "prominate" in the discussions?

01-26-2010, 07:03 PM

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Tigerpilot1995

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Originally Posted by 320Driver

Heard preferential bidding system VERY prominate in the discussions. JUST SAY NO folks! Good luck, you all...

My inside sources tell me that is not the case. That is a rumor started by our own without any merit.

01-26-2010, 07:04 PM

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767pilot

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Originally Posted by Section Eight

Think of this, all your vacation on DAYS OFF!

Think of it if you want, but that is not what PBS does. You still get your vacation on work days if you are senior enough, and you can still put off days before and after, you just can't conflict. Still a bad deal for us given our favorable conflict rules. Just try to keep your arguments honest

01-26-2010, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigerpilot1995

My inside sources tell me that is not the case. That is a rumor started by our own without any merit.

And being flamed by some managers. It is nothing more than a leming like panic on the bar and grill right now. Mass psychosis.

01-26-2010, 08:15 PM

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Pilot7576

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Mou

Folks...

Just my .02 here but I think the company is fishing in a dry hole trying to open up the contract to extract more savings. Atlanta is probably po'd that there isn't a 4a2b in our contract that allows them instant savings. So they try and sweat us for any contract concessions...

With the new administration in, I would be very surprised if they responded positively at all to any company entreaties to open the contract. PBS was a nonstarter during the last negotiations and it is still a nonstarter. The company was offered 90% with a chance to make up the difference in the future. With their footdragging and posturing I still believe they eventually will settle for this deal

JMO

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