UPS--New MOU signup options
#42
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
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Is the need for an MOU a bluff?
I just did a quick review of the UPS seniority list estimating additional vacation time crewmembers are entitled to in 2010 an 2011.
Here is what I came up with; 335 more weeks in 2010 and 479 more weeks in 2011, for a total of = 814 weeks in 2011. This accounts for all crewmembers getting an additional 3rd, 4th or 5th week of vacation. Yes the 1988 guys are now getting 5 weeks!
If all 814 weeks (in 2011) were to be covered by other crew members how many crew members would be required to cover this extra vacation? The number I come up with is 37. Guessing that as an average 70% of vacation is bid on work days and 30% on off days (unless you hold a no conflict RDG line), the number of extra required crew members is 26.
I also came up with 70 mandatory (age 65) retirements scheduled over the next two years. 70 retirements (minimum) plus the 26 additional positions for vacation coverage is at least 96 additional crew positions that will need to be covered over the next two years. If anyone retires before age 65 that will add to that number.
In addition the new FAR changes may generate a need for additional crews, though any numbers there are purely speculative at this time. Let's assume 50 additional crew positions at a minimum due to required scheduling changes. So we are likely looking at about a total of 150 crewmembers total and this assumes no additional volume growth or economic recovery.
My personal opinion is that if we are overstaffed by 400 crew members right now it will not take long at all before these crewmembers will be needed again. Considering the above numbers with a furlough and a resulting opentime ban things could get really interesting! So is UPS scaring us so they can scarf up MOU money or do they really need to furlough? If we give them MOU money I guess we will never find out...
In 2012 more crewmembers get an additional week of vacation so that must be accounted for too. There is also an average of 50 retirements per year for the three years beginning in 2012.
Now......if UPS suddenly decides to park more airplanes - like the 757PW - that would change the numbers and the dynamics of this whole thing.
Here is what I came up with; 335 more weeks in 2010 and 479 more weeks in 2011, for a total of = 814 weeks in 2011. This accounts for all crewmembers getting an additional 3rd, 4th or 5th week of vacation. Yes the 1988 guys are now getting 5 weeks!
If all 814 weeks (in 2011) were to be covered by other crew members how many crew members would be required to cover this extra vacation? The number I come up with is 37. Guessing that as an average 70% of vacation is bid on work days and 30% on off days (unless you hold a no conflict RDG line), the number of extra required crew members is 26.
I also came up with 70 mandatory (age 65) retirements scheduled over the next two years. 70 retirements (minimum) plus the 26 additional positions for vacation coverage is at least 96 additional crew positions that will need to be covered over the next two years. If anyone retires before age 65 that will add to that number.
In addition the new FAR changes may generate a need for additional crews, though any numbers there are purely speculative at this time. Let's assume 50 additional crew positions at a minimum due to required scheduling changes. So we are likely looking at about a total of 150 crewmembers total and this assumes no additional volume growth or economic recovery.
My personal opinion is that if we are overstaffed by 400 crew members right now it will not take long at all before these crewmembers will be needed again. Considering the above numbers with a furlough and a resulting opentime ban things could get really interesting! So is UPS scaring us so they can scarf up MOU money or do they really need to furlough? If we give them MOU money I guess we will never find out...
In 2012 more crewmembers get an additional week of vacation so that must be accounted for too. There is also an average of 50 retirements per year for the three years beginning in 2012.
Now......if UPS suddenly decides to park more airplanes - like the 757PW - that would change the numbers and the dynamics of this whole thing.
#45
UPS can' get rid of the managers. They've taken an oath to the company and are part of the inner circle, unlike the laborers.
#46
For once, I agree with brownie. Although, they have really no reason to since they have little pilot slaves that will do whatever the company wants.
#47
For once for once. Ok i'm hurt and can't take this no longer. Good bye APC and so long FP. Got a go see who's our next ipa prez. Be right back.
#48
Would transferring the -400 flying to SDF and using the Polar Routes that we just received help to "right size" ANC ?
Competitive response to FDX 777 MEM-Bejing-Shanghai by flying over the Pole.
The folks at the "line" will be happy to see me again.
FF
Competitive response to FDX 777 MEM-Bejing-Shanghai by flying over the Pole.
The folks at the "line" will be happy to see me again.
FF
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