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Old 10-17-2009, 06:08 PM
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Old 10-18-2009, 07:34 AM
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your experience under mandatory give backs and putting the power in the hands of the company are great examples for IPA guys to watch out for in the future. The IPA gave back 25 million and UPS mgt gave themselves a 650 increase in bonuses ..... mmmm
The IPA gave back 25 million and UPS mgt gave themselves a 650 increase in bonuses ..... mmmm

That should be the rallying cry out of the IPA, instead of the "dig a little deeper" message we're sure to hear shortly. Sometimes you just have to call it for what it is. Don't forget UPS never misses an opportunity to shove it up our arses, I say we return the favor.
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Old 10-18-2009, 07:57 AM
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The IPA gave back 25 million and UPS mgt gave themselves a 650 increase in bonuses ..... mmmm
Didn't that only go to the CEO?

That should be the rallying cry out of the IPA, instead of the "dig a little deeper" message we're sure to hear shortly. Sometimes you just have to call it for what it is. Don't forget UPS never misses an opportunity to shove it up our arses, I say we return the favor.
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You're missing the point, for years (three to be exact) the IPA has been UPS' whipping boy. I remember days gone by where the IPA would actually notice a crack in UPS's armor and exploit the hell out of it. Maybe I failed to get my message across but what I'm trying to say is we have a chance to highlight the egg on UPS' face. A good defense begins with a good offense. We are not alone on this, plenty of non union workers are taking cuts as well as lower and mid level UPS managers who must feel the same frustration as we do when the top bosses take in all of the savings ponied up by us serfs. In the past, top UPS management started out as package handlers. Not so this time. Scott Davis is the first outsider to take the helm. In the past, top UPS management would not reward themselves in such a greedy way when other employees were being asked to give back. This demonstrates very poor leadership skills in my opinion that should provide the IPA with PR traction. Perhaps a better idea would be to continue trying to expand the MOU while exploiting the double standard demonstrated by top management.

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Old 10-18-2009, 08:36 AM
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Perhaps a better idea would be to continue trying to expand the MOU while exploiting the double standard demonstrated by top management.
Now you've got my attention but nobody out there is going to listen. People just don't care. they put on a good show with the tar, feathers, and pitch forks, but has anyone gone after the wrongheadedness that brought us Iraq or the titans of wall street and their derivatives that melted us all down? Whose gonna care, the major holder of stock, the Ann Casey foundation, controlled by our very board?

We are in a tough spot. I've given all I am gonna give but I also know that sticking it up the arse of UPS means that it is going to go up sone very innocent arses as well, and UPS will still be doing fine.
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Old 10-18-2009, 08:40 AM
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Using that logic we might as well fold up shop and cave into managements every demand. Just imagine the money we'll save in union dues. ;(
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Originally Posted by say that again
You're missing the point, for years (three to be exact) the IPA has been UPS' whipping boy. I remember days gone by where the IPA would actually notice a crack in UPS's armor and exploit the hell out of it. Maybe I failed to get my message across but what I'm trying to say is we have a chance to highlight the egg on UPS' face. A good defense begins with a good offense. We are not alone on this, plenty of non union workers are taking cuts as well as lower and mid level UPS managers who must feel the same frustration as we do when the top bosses take in all of the savings ponied up by us serfs. In the past, top UPS management started out as package handlers. Not so this time. Scott Davis is the first outsider to take the helm. In the past, top UPS management would not reward themselves in such a greedy way when other employees were being asked to give back. This demonstrates very poor leadership skills in my opinion that should provide the IPA with PR traction. Perhaps a better idea would be to continue trying to expand the MOU while exploiting the double standard demonstrated by top management.
I will agree with you on the change in attitude at the top of UPS. Davis has shifted the company into behaving like every other corporation which tells me he is going to take the short term plan and ignore the long term and run with the money he gets. Bad for everyone except him.
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Old 10-18-2009, 12:28 PM
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You're missing the point, for years (three to be exact) the IPA has been UPS' whipping boy. I remember days gone by where the IPA would actually notice a crack in UPS's armor and exploit the hell out of it.
I agree with that statement. I've had a couple things I couldn't believe how the union dragged their feet.
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Or even better, vote your seniority. There are major issues facing the lower/ middle seniorities in the near future. A- fund issues aren't one of them...
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