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Old 10-15-2009, 11:20 AM
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Sorry all. I guess my first post offended the UPS guys.

So let me ask you this, what will UPS do to compete with our new 777 service? I see this as checkmate, since it will literally take years for UPS to get a 777 program up and running. They like to copy everything we do here, but we'll be cherry picking customers that need next day service to the US for years.

Personally, I love it!
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I'm glad to see you're man enough to apologize.

Uhhh....I think UPS will probably survive this. Maybe they'll just open up their checkbook, write a check and buy us.
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Originally Posted by Long Hauler
Sorry all. I guess my first post offended the UPS guys.

So let me ask you this, what will UPS do to compete with our new 777 service? I see this as checkmate, since it will literally take years for UPS to get a 777 program up and running. They like to copy everything we do here, but we'll be cherry picking customers that need next day service to the US for years.

Personally, I love it!
I'll tell you exactly what they'll do...

They'll threaten key Congressional types with photos of them with farm animals and Fred will have Teamsters on his hands, he'll cancel the 777 order (assuming he's a man of his "word") and you'll furlough.

You'd love that too I suppose.
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Originally Posted by Long Hauler
Sorry all. I guess my first post offended the UPS guys.

So let me ask you this, what will UPS do to compete with our new 777 service? I see this as checkmate, since it will literally take years for UPS to get a 777 program up and running. They like to copy everything we do here, but we'll be cherry picking customers that need next day service to the US for years.

Personally, I love it!
The big question is does UPS need 777's to compete with FedEx? My guess is no.

Instead of comparing one airline's fleet against another's, maybe you should try to compare balance sheets instead? I wonder if FedEx is paying cash for their 777's or if they are leveraging themselves.
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i think your post offended everyone, brown, purple, and everyone else. i'd hate to see my ups friends on the street and i'm sure they feel the same about us. thanks for the apology though.

i think these days labor vs. management is a much more important question the brown vs. purple
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Originally Posted by Lab Rat
The big question is does UPS need 777's to compete with FedEx? My guess is no.

Instead of comparing one airline's fleet against another's, maybe you should try to compare balance sheets instead? I wonder if FedEx is paying cash for their 777's or if they are leveraging themselves.
You think FEDEX cannot afford to buy airplanes? Wow!

I am not comparing fleets, but comparing service. Service that FedEx can make but UPS can't.

Checkmate!
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I'm glad to see you're man enough to apologize.

Uhhh....I think UPS will probably survive this.

What a sexist thing to say. I hope your man enough to apologize to all the chick pilots who may or may not have been offended by your patronizing and prejudical gender stereotyping.
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You think FEDEX cannot afford to buy airplanes? Wow!
I didn't say FedEx couldn't afford them, I was just curious how they could afford them.

I am not comparing fleets, but comparing service. Service that FedEx can make but UPS can't.
You mean that large market between Asia and Memphis?

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Originally Posted by Lab Rat
I didn't say FedEx couldn't them, I was just curious how they could afford them.


You mean that large market between Asia and Memphis?



Actually, it's Asia and the rest of the world. The packages don't actually stay in Memphis.
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Originally Posted by Long Hauler
You think FEDEX cannot afford to buy airplanes? Wow!

I am not comparing fleets, but comparing service. Service that FedEx can make but UPS can't.

Checkmate!
Being business types, they'll likely evaluate the market for the four +/- hour advantage, watch the demand for said service and if necessary settle for 100,000 pounds of the higher priced premium load (which Fred will charge a premium for) on a 747-400 PVG-SDF and make the same service.

That's the problem with pilots making business decisions...their thinking stops at the crew door of the airplane, and hence perhaps one of the differences in balance sheets. Check.
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