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Old 08-14-2009, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by jonnyjetprop
Here's some trivia. If you ever jumpseat on a 737 and there's a second jumpseat, now you know why it's there. You had to have two so a fed and the third man could ride in the cockpit.

British Airways used to have a flight attendant ride on their all cargo planes. She would function as a fire guard when not serving the cockpit.
I saw this overseas, the FA also handle all the crew luggage logistics and transportation for the flight crew when they cleared customs.
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Checking in to the hotel in the Middle East behind a herd of Cathay FAs, one turns around and asks where the FAs are. It's explained to her that we're just a freighter and don't have any. "Who cooks your meals?"
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Checking in to the hotel in the Middle East behind a herd of Cathay FAs, one turns around and asks where the FAs are. It's explained to her that we're just a freighter and don't have any. "Who cooks your meals?"
Now that's a damn sexist comment if I've ever heard one. I hope you got her employee number, or at least her bra size.

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Originally Posted by jsfBoat
I have a year to go to finish my A&P and am taking my cfi ride next week. When the hiring starts again, will any of the cargo companies need flight engineers? Besides finishing the A&P and taking the F/E written, what else is invloved in getting the F/E ticket? I'm interested I'm getting on with a cargo company as a flight engineer.
Get the written done, don't buy the rating. Here's why. You are getting your CFI (good job!), so what you need to buuild are hours and experience. Any operator of a 3 man plane will need to put you through indoc, and ground school as a new guy; therefore you will get trained by them and take an FE ride on their equipment. The reason for them doing it is because aircraft and company procedures vary by carrier. They want you to learn to do it their way. If you take a course and learn procedures the way the school teaches them, you may have to "unlearn" some of them and that's a pain. Along with a lot of $$ out of your wallet.

If while you are instructing, you can land a job in the right seat somewhere, wonderful. But if an FE job opens and you are a rated pilot, you are in a different league than a PFE in terms of being able to log some of that time (I forget the conversion). Further, you will gain experience as part of a crew and learn a hell of a lot sitting sideways. More importantly, you hopefully will be able to move up with that carrier or, assuming you continue to build hours, move to another carrier in the right seat.

Right now, you need to learn...learn...learn...for that reason, I'd stay away from RJ's only because the emphasis is on button pushing and programming and not really learning the art of the job. Not knocking the RJ guys, but I'll take a CFI with a bit of hand flying experience and a bit of watching and learning on the backseat anyday. Anyone can be taught how to program the FMS and turn on the autopilot. I need someone with me who knows what to do when the magic goes "POOF!" and we're on raw data in the crap. Or someone who understands that the autopilot can be your best friend...or can KILL you just as fast.

All that said...GOOD LUCK!! Get the CFI, work on the hours and get the test guide to study for the FE Turbojet written...don't buy the sales pitch from anyone about needing to buy the rating.

There will be operators out there with 3 man planes. They likely won't be stellar, but keep your focus on the goal and don't be afraid to walk away from any job if you find yourself at risk of a violation or it's unsafe. You can always find another job. If you have a clean record, it's a lot easier to find a good one.
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