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Old 08-03-2009, 07:38 AM
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Quick question, If I deviate on a pairing with both a front end dhd and mid-trip dhd, will both dhd's be cancelled or just the front?
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Originally Posted by ol'tigerguy
Quick question, If I deviate on a pairing with both a front end dhd and mid-trip dhd, will both dhd's be cancelled or just the front?
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Vips asks you which legs to cnx. So if you do not cnx the mid-trip it will go as sched....
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Don't you also need a managers approval for a mid trip deviate???
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As well, I thought you also needed to deviate as a crew.
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As well, I thought you also needed to deviate as a crew.
Recommended but not required.
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Originally Posted by PurpleTail
Recommended but not required.
Not true. And not in the contract.
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Old 08-03-2009, 10:57 AM
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ol'tigerguy, welcome to the deviation world. Here's how to request to deviate.
From the Flt Ops home page, select VIPS, then select Trips and Services, then Request to Deviate. The list of your future trips will pop up. Select the trip you want to deviate on and click "Go". All the D/H's on that trip will pop up (including ground D/H's like AFW-DFW hotel). Select each individual leg you wish to deviate on and click on "Submit".
If it is a front end D/H you select, a reminder that a deviation check-in is required.
To obtain permission for a mid-trip deviation, or for surface transportation over $100 (but less than $200), or for domestic or Intl in lieu of double D/H > 3 nights, you will need to go back to the Flt Ops home page, select Expense Report Data, then select Pre-Approvals on the top right side of the page. Then select Mid-Trip Deviation if that's what you want to do, and submit. If I recall, you will then get an automatic VIPS notification or e-mail giving approval for the mid-trip deviation. To cover all the bases, you should also request permission from your ACP or FOA specialist.
As I read it, the contract does not require that both crew members mid-trip deviate together, and I've gotten approval in the past to do it by myself (with a good deviation plan with several back-ups). The contract says:
Mid-Trip Deviations
A pilot may deviate from a scheduled deadhead between any two revenue segments of a trip only with the prior approval of his ACP, or his designee.

It is still a good idea to do it together, and your individual ACP may not give permission unless both guys are doing it together. Good luck.
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Thanks to all, I'm starting my new commuting career in AUG. and just trying to get a handle on it.
Again, thanks.
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Originally Posted by Jetjok
As well, I thought you also needed to deviate as a crew.
Lewis stopped that several years ago. But it use to be that way.
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