FDXLAG

Would you like me to go back and quote your idiotic rant about slander that prompted me to post the reference to the (self admitted) false advertising by UPS. It aint personal it is just business. UPS plays it and FDX plays it. You don't see anyone here ranting about UPS actions do you (brown guys accepted)? What did your mother teach you about playing nice?

And the brown bailout ad is funny.

MaxKts

Jeez Louise... Read what he wrote. Did he anywhere say it was required or mandated?

And if working under the NLRA is so great why did Brown initially fight so hard to get their airline side under the RLA?

CactusCrew

disregard ....

olshop

There are cancelation clauses with severe penalties in all of these purchase contracts. When all of the airlines backed out of the Airbus contracts due to production issues, etc... they all paid millions inculeding UPS.

fdx727pilot

Uhh, catch up with the news, bud. We have a clause in the Fedex contract with Boeing for the second 15 777s and option for 15 more, allowing Fred to cancel if Fedex's status is changed from RLA to NLRA. That's the basis for this whole thread!

FDXLAG

Here is the part of the FEDEX position:

You may have seen reports in the media recently regarding one of the provisions that was included in the documents related to our recent exercise of our option to purchase 15 additional B777F aircraft. The clause stipulates that if FedEx Express or any of its employees is removed from the jurisdiction of the Railway Labor Act, the purchase of those aircraft is canceled.
This provision was included in the contract as a precaution against a major change in the circumstances of our business – the circumstances upon which we based our fleet plans. It is a reasonable contingency to put in place because a change of that magnitude could affect the structure of our network or the fundamentals of our business model.
The issue of RLA jurisdiction is one that we have discussed in detail a number of times over our 36 year history. FedEx Express has been covered by that law since the company’s first day of operation. It is an issue that will continue to receive significant media attention in the coming weeks as UPS and the Teamsters continue their combined lobbying efforts with Congress to disrupt our status under the law.

Captain Crunch

UPS, not the pilot's union would be just as satisfied to have all the UPS truck drivers under the RLA. In fact they lobbied to have that done after the first IPA contract when they saw how mediation, cooling off, and the PEB worked. Unfortunately for them FedEx lobbied against it, they happen to have a former executive that was the FAA Administrator at that time, and I'm sure he was consulted and advised on the ramifications to the administration. I think all UPS would like is that we all play by the same rules, then the smarter ones would have to rely on their smarts, and the lucky ones would have to rely on their luck. The argument would hold less weight if FedEx hadn't started competing on the ground.

Pharo351

I don't see what the fuss is all about! I go take a "Brown-bail-out" in my bathroom everyday!

Busdrivr

Recieved this from Senator Corker (R Tennessee)



Thank you for taking the time to contact my office regarding certain labor provisions in the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) reauthorization. Your input is important to me, and I appreciate the time you took to share your thoughts.



I am extremely disappointed that the provision regarding FedEx and their current labor classification was included in H.R.915, the House version of the FAA reauthorization bill. FedEx has made exceptional contributions to our state's economy and to the Memphis region, and I agree with you that this provision would have a negative impact on FedEx and on our state. H.R.915 has been moving through the committee process but has not yet reached the House floor. As we consider FAA reauthorization in the Senate, please know that I will do what I can to make sure that this provision is not included in the final version of any bill. The insight and information you have given here will certainly help my staff and me more effectively look into this issue, and I thank you for your input.



Thank you again for your letter. I hope you will continue to share your thoughts with me as I serve you in the United States Senate.





Sincerely,

Bob Corker
United States Senator

R1200RT

I just don't understand why we all have to play by the same rules. We've operated under the same rules since 1972 and you guys have operated under the same rules for 100 years. I'm sure FedEx would agree to getting out of the ground service if UPS would get back out of the air service. UPS was flying airplanes long before FedEx made any serious push into the ground service arena. And, like you said UPS has been trying for years to get under the RLA, but alas UPS is a trucking company, and the best one in the world I'm sure. FedEx operates more airplanes than any other airline in the world and has the largest wide body fleet in the world, I'd say that sounds like an airline.