More Fatigue for AM Standby Crews at Purple
#32
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: Retired
Posts: 3,717
BEWARE if you call in fatigued. You will have to speak with the duty officer. During this recorded conversation he will try to do one thing. That is to get you to self incriminate. Then you will have to call (or be called by) you ACP. Email circumstances too. He too will try to hang you.
We all have a file on us. We are allowed to see it. BUT if you call in fatigued it goes on some thing called a pilot report card. Bet you didnt know this existed? This report card has your picture and ANY derogatory comment that ANYone (mgmt/ DO) wishes to put on it. Call in fatigued its a BLACK MARK on you report card. For their future disciplinary or what ever actions.
Next contract we need access to our report card as we do now to our file.
We all have a file on us. We are allowed to see it. BUT if you call in fatigued it goes on some thing called a pilot report card. Bet you didnt know this existed? This report card has your picture and ANY derogatory comment that ANYone (mgmt/ DO) wishes to put on it. Call in fatigued its a BLACK MARK on you report card. For their future disciplinary or what ever actions.
Next contract we need access to our report card as we do now to our file.
JJ
#33
Classic management technique. Throw too many issues at you so you think you have to drop some in the hope of gaining ground on the "most important." Or you get "fatigued" working on them all. I try to address each and every issue because I believe that reaction is never rewarded. I want them to address all misdeeds.
The fact is we don't know what will happen if a bunch of PORs get written.
#34
...BUT if you call in fatigued it goes on some thing called a pilot report card. Bet you didnt know this existed? This report card has your picture and ANY derogatory comment that ANYone (mgmt/ DO) wishes to put on it. Call in fatigued its a BLACK MARK on you report card. For their future disciplinary or what ever actions....
Sorry you guys are facing all these issues concerning fatigue and safety at a time when the Company is making profits. Makes it clear where their priorities are.
#35
BEWARE if you call in fatigued. You will have to speak with the duty officer. During this recorded conversation he will try to do one thing. That is to get you to self incriminate. Then you will have to call (or be called by) you ACP. Email circumstances too. He too will try to hang you.
We all have a file on us. We are allowed to see it. BUT if you call in fatigued it goes on some thing called a pilot report card. Bet you didnt know this existed? This report card has your picture and ANY derogatory comment that ANYone (mgmt/ DO) wishes to put on it. Call in fatigued its a BLACK MARK on you report card. For their future disciplinary or what ever actions.
Next contract we need access to our report card as we do now to our file.
We all have a file on us. We are allowed to see it. BUT if you call in fatigued it goes on some thing called a pilot report card. Bet you didnt know this existed? This report card has your picture and ANY derogatory comment that ANYone (mgmt/ DO) wishes to put on it. Call in fatigued its a BLACK MARK on you report card. For their future disciplinary or what ever actions.
Next contract we need access to our report card as we do now to our file.
And you know about this how?
#36
Banned
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Posts: 258
"and you know about this how?"
its not about me or how i know
Argumentum ad hominum take the argument off the subject and on to the man. Name calling not a debate winner.
If you doubt its existence its to your possible peril. Call visit your ACPO
My simple point for SIMPLETONS like you (ad hom) Is that there should be no double secret probation aka Dean Wormer of Animal House
its not about me or how i know
Argumentum ad hominum take the argument off the subject and on to the man. Name calling not a debate winner.
If you doubt its existence its to your possible peril. Call visit your ACPO
My simple point for SIMPLETONS like you (ad hom) Is that there should be no double secret probation aka Dean Wormer of Animal House
#37
"and you know about this how?"
its not about me or how i know
Argumentum ad hominum take the argument off the subject and on to the man. Name calling not a debate winner.
If you doubt its existence its to your possible peril. Call visit your ACPO
My simple point for SIMPLETONS like you (ad hom) Is that there should be no double secret probation aka Dean Wormer of Animal House
its not about me or how i know
Argumentum ad hominum take the argument off the subject and on to the man. Name calling not a debate winner.
If you doubt its existence its to your possible peril. Call visit your ACPO
My simple point for SIMPLETONS like you (ad hom) Is that there should be no double secret probation aka Dean Wormer of Animal House
Ok, wow. I simply wanted to know how you knew about this "Report Card". I guess I should take every anonymous post at face value.
Also, you seemed to imply that I had resorted to name calling. If you are implying such, could you show me where that occurred in my post? If you aren't implying such, then you have my apology.
Additionally, if I took every anonymous post without asking for further source information then I think I would indeed be a SIMPLETON.
Sorry if my asking a question offended you, I just wanted to know how you knew about this report card since no one else seems to know.
#39
Part Time Employee
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: Dispersing Green House Gasses on a Global Basis
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#40
Line Holder
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Posts: 52
Good guess. Yeah, I'm single, so no pitter-patter of little feet to keep me awake when I'm at home. At least not yet.
Jetjok,
I'm not opposed to the union at least finding out why the company is doing the standby assignments the way they are. There might be a good, legitimate reason for it that hasn't been made public. However, if there is, are we as a group willing to accept that? Based on what I read on here, I get the impression that everyone is convinced that everything the company does is evil, and if it's inconvenient for us, (which is all this is for the reserve guys is an inconvenience,) then we should start a fight with the company over it. There's plenty of other stuff to fight the company on, and I'm a firm believer in choosing your battles whenever possible. If you're on A reserve, then plan on getting called. Go ahead and take a 4 or 5 hour nap, and time it so that if scheduling calls you right at midnight, you'll have had some sleep. If you're not a night person, don't even set the alarm. That way, if you're not called, you sleep peacefully through the night, although you might wind up waking up at 4 or 5am. Too early in the morning for my taste, but if you like being up during daylight, that might be the way to go.
Jetjok,
I'm not opposed to the union at least finding out why the company is doing the standby assignments the way they are. There might be a good, legitimate reason for it that hasn't been made public. However, if there is, are we as a group willing to accept that? Based on what I read on here, I get the impression that everyone is convinced that everything the company does is evil, and if it's inconvenient for us, (which is all this is for the reserve guys is an inconvenience,) then we should start a fight with the company over it. There's plenty of other stuff to fight the company on, and I'm a firm believer in choosing your battles whenever possible. If you're on A reserve, then plan on getting called. Go ahead and take a 4 or 5 hour nap, and time it so that if scheduling calls you right at midnight, you'll have had some sleep. If you're not a night person, don't even set the alarm. That way, if you're not called, you sleep peacefully through the night, although you might wind up waking up at 4 or 5am. Too early in the morning for my taste, but if you like being up during daylight, that might be the way to go.