Another FDX MD?
05-08-2009, 12:03 AM
#81
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HIFLYR,
That said, the problem I have is with Yeah Right's comment. He might indeed suck at crosswind landings, and that, in and of itself, while not desirable, is at least workable. The real problem is that he must be of the generation where nothing is ever his fault. You know, the generation that was always taught that everyone is a "winner" and that there are no "losers." I say this because, instead of admitting his shortcomings, he immediately deflects the blame by saying "If I did it would be because I was never taught fundemental airmanship by our instructors."
After all, this sh!t is not rocket science. Except of course his comment "A V1 cut is a rudder manuever. Lift is a function of Lift coefficient times dynamic pressure times wing area. It is also affected by the Arc Cosign of the angle of sweep. As the angle of sweep approaches 0 the lift is maximized. As the angle of sweep increases lift is minimized." Give me a break, the coefficient times the dynamic pressure times wing area. YGBSM! I'm just glad I never knew that, because I'm quite certain knowing that would have ruined each and every one of my crosswind landings.
This stuff IS NOT rocket science. What it is, is paying attention to detail, knowing your profiles, believing in yourself, your other crewmembers, and your training, and striving to get it perfect each and every time. At least that's how I see it, your view may vary.
JJ
That said, the problem I have is with Yeah Right's comment. He might indeed suck at crosswind landings, and that, in and of itself, while not desirable, is at least workable. The real problem is that he must be of the generation where nothing is ever his fault. You know, the generation that was always taught that everyone is a "winner" and that there are no "losers." I say this because, instead of admitting his shortcomings, he immediately deflects the blame by saying "If I did it would be because I was never taught fundemental airmanship by our instructors."
After all, this sh!t is not rocket science. Except of course his comment "A V1 cut is a rudder manuever. Lift is a function of Lift coefficient times dynamic pressure times wing area. It is also affected by the Arc Cosign of the angle of sweep. As the angle of sweep approaches 0 the lift is maximized. As the angle of sweep increases lift is minimized." Give me a break, the coefficient times the dynamic pressure times wing area. YGBSM! I'm just glad I never knew that, because I'm quite certain knowing that would have ruined each and every one of my crosswind landings.
This stuff IS NOT rocket science. What it is, is paying attention to detail, knowing your profiles, believing in yourself, your other crewmembers, and your training, and striving to get it perfect each and every time. At least that's how I see it, your view may vary.JJ
My personal experience with training here has always been 100% professional and pleasant. No complaints there at all. My point is that we seem to have moved away from teaching airmanship and seem to focus almost solely on procedures. Don't get me wrong, procedures are extremely important but something is wrong here. Perhaps over the years we have shifted our training emphasis too far away from stick and rudder flying.
Believe it or not the V1 comment came from notes taken in B727 ground school at another airline.
05-08-2009, 12:36 AM
#84
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Some of our pilots have only landed in headwinds, prior to coming to FDX.
And, I can't believe that no one has brought up the "Coriolis Effect", in regards to landing a great big swept wing jumbo jet airplane, in a cross wind.
And, I can't believe that no one has brought up the "Coriolis Effect", in regards to landing a great big swept wing jumbo jet airplane, in a cross wind.
05-08-2009, 04:08 AM
#85
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Now that's good stuff! How about "Be smooth. If you can't be smooth, be high"?
05-08-2009, 07:10 AM
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If we are to consider the tides, I seem to recall something about the "set and drift" from a former life.
There seems to be many factors that come into play when landing the MD-11, only a couple of which the flying pilot actually has direct control of.
05-08-2009, 07:25 AM
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Don't forget the Moon. A full moon has a stronger gravitational pull making the tides higher and last longer. This will change the Coriolis Effect which will make it easier for the pilot to suffer from disorientation and induce more than usual "micro naps" on final. The net effect of all of this is more "synthetic time" which we know the company despises 
The net effect of all of this is more "synthetic time" which we know the company despises
05-08-2009, 07:30 AM
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Damn, this thread has degraded quickly. Now let's get back to trying to figure out why Yeah Right can't land in a crosswind. And, oh, by the way are you actually saying that you respond to a V1 cut with only ailerons. Say it ain't so, Joe. Hell, no wonder you can't land in a crosswind.
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