IPA UPS agreement
04-30-2009, 06:31 PM
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Put the Champagne Bottles Back in the Fridge
Call me a "glass if half-empty" kind of guy, but what kind of training events will be generated by people NOT in the bottom 300 accepting this leave? Do you think UPS will actually let this happen? I don't see them going for it.
Yes, I agree, it's a huge step to get this far, but let's keep it realistic and realize UPS can turn this thing off like a light switch. I'll believe it when I see it.
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Yes, I agree, it's a huge step to get this far, but let's keep it realistic and realize UPS can turn this thing off like a light switch. I'll believe it when I see it.
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04-30-2009, 06:32 PM
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It looks like the over 65 crowd will also be able to take the early retirement option 2 which gives them an additional year credit towards their final annual retirement benefits. Wouldn't this be a COST to the company instead of a savings?
I mean, these guys are outa here anyways once the 8's are gone.
I mean, these guys are outa here anyways once the 8's are gone.
04-30-2009, 06:35 PM
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Good luck guys. Especially in today's economy it would be a real success to get a big chunk of guys to step up and take some kind of pay hit. Let's face it, traditionally its difficult to part airline guys and money. Especially at the bar. Did your agreement also come with an unvoluntary across the board pay give back? Good luck again.
04-30-2009, 06:39 PM
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Q: May age 65 and older flight engineers on the retiring DC-8 fleet take advantage of Early Retirement Option 2?
A: Yes. All crewmembers age sixty (60) or older by August 1, 2009, may voluntarily retire as outlined above with this additional benefit.
04-30-2009, 06:49 PM
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Good luck guys. Especially in today's economy it would be a real success to get a big chunk of guys to step up and take some kind of pay hit. Let's face it, traditionally its difficult to part airline guys and money. Especially at the bar. Did your agreement also come with an unvoluntary across the board pay give back? Good luck again.
04-30-2009, 06:52 PM
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There may be more than meets the eye, but on the surface this sounds like a good deal for a lot of pilots, both junior and senior. I'm sure the EB was burning some midnight oil to get this thing passed. I'm sure they tried to get the best deal that they could. I know that UPS management is infamous around the world for its relationship with the IPA, but perhaps this is going to work out for the better. Relax, smile...at least until June 1st.
04-30-2009, 07:14 PM
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A lot less training events. Imagine parking the DC8 coupled with a reduction in force displacement/realignment bid = $$$$.
04-30-2009, 08:13 PM
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We all have an opportunity. The programs will create "effective" vacancies throughout the system. If there are many captain volunteers or retirements, those crewmembers would have to be back filled, the same for F/O's, I think this is the logic behind the lack of a realignment bid for the 8. This would be the only way to make the program work. No one can predict where the volunteers will come from. Once they do volunteer, UPS can set up a realignment bid that will accommodate the programs.
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