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05-05-2009, 07:19 PM
#51
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Goose17
It is not in the contract! If you are referring to the FCIF on the contract page on PFC - that is just something the company has placed on their website - that does not make it part of the contract. The FCIF you referenced had an expiration date and has not been renewed so it is no longer effective.
It is not in the contract! If you are referring to the FCIF on the contract page on PFC - that is just something the company has placed on their website - that does not make it part of the contract. The FCIF you referenced had an expiration date and has not been renewed so it is no longer effective.
Contract Administration
Section 26.J. General - Jumpseats
I think it is still valid info otherwise the little link wouldn't be there. I believe there has been many interpretations on this issue and most of them have been off - including emails from mis-informed ACPs. This is the last FCIF covering the topic and the link is still in the contract.
Normally this isn't an issue and I really could care less how you book your seat, until you bump me as a stager and you book business at a later date.
Goose17
05-05-2009, 07:41 PM
#52
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It is from one of the links inbedded in the contract to further "splain" stuff. In this section:
Contract Administration
Section 26.J. General - Jumpseats
I think it is still valid info otherwise the little link wouldn't be there. I believe there has been many interpretations on this issue and most of them have been off - including emails from mis-informed ACPs. This is the last FCIF covering the topic and the link is still in the contract.
Normally this isn't an issue and I really could care less how you book your seat, until you bump me as a stager and you book business at a later date.
Goose17
Contract Administration
Section 26.J. General - Jumpseats
I think it is still valid info otherwise the little link wouldn't be there. I believe there has been many interpretations on this issue and most of them have been off - including emails from mis-informed ACPs. This is the last FCIF covering the topic and the link is still in the contract.
Normally this isn't an issue and I really could care less how you book your seat, until you bump me as a stager and you book business at a later date.
Goose17
05-06-2009, 12:09 AM
#53
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So . . . how does the FCIF relating to internet charges with receipts required apply since they're under $25? The CBA says the Company will cover it, but JL wrote in an FCIF that a receipt is required. What's the expiration date of that FCIF? How did that FCIF modify the CBA?
We live by folklore. It would be nice if we could rely on what's written in the CBA. Unfortunately, only our side seems to be held accountable.
We live by folklore. It would be nice if we could rely on what's written in the CBA. Unfortunately, only our side seems to be held accountable.
05-06-2009, 12:21 AM
#54
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It is from one of the links inbedded in the contract to further "splain" stuff. In this section:
Contract Administration
Section 26.J. General - Jumpseats
I think it is still valid info otherwise the little link wouldn't be there. I believe there has been many interpretations on this issue and most of them have been off - including emails from mis-informed ACPs. This is the last FCIF covering the topic and the link is still in the contract.
Normally this isn't an issue and I really could care less how you book your seat, until you bump me as a stager and you book business at a later date.
Goose17
Contract Administration
Section 26.J. General - Jumpseats
I think it is still valid info otherwise the little link wouldn't be there. I believe there has been many interpretations on this issue and most of them have been off - including emails from mis-informed ACPs. This is the last FCIF covering the topic and the link is still in the contract.
Normally this isn't an issue and I really could care less how you book your seat, until you bump me as a stager and you book business at a later date.
Goose17
And where are you going to reference the contract PFC or ALPA? If it is from PFC - refer to my previous post.
And just to reiterate what has already been said many times - a "business" reservation does not bump a "staging" reservation!
05-06-2009, 03:41 AM
#55
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Not entirely true. In the event seats are lost, i.e. MD-10 with 7 seats goes to MD-10 with 5 seats, the business reservation has priority over the staging reservation. When the reservation was made does not matter like it would if only stagers were being bumped. You are correct that when making initial reservations, business cannot bump staging to get on the flight.
05-06-2009, 05:58 AM
#56
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I would like to see the "staging" terminology either replaced with "business" or just make it the exact same priority as business. So anyone bumped will be bumped in reverse booking order. Still apply the no harm / no foul rule.
I've never had to use the NHNF rule, but I've been bumped as a stager when the seat is lost for training or aircraft swap. In both cases, anyone booking business after me didn't get bumped. Now I book business.
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