EPIRB

The "system" will replace a staging pilot with business when there is an equipment change. That happens frequently. At least one ACP has advised pilots to book business.

This results in penalizing those that follow the rules as written. Book business or get bumped by someone that does when they swap tails in the computer. In at least one hard to jumpseat location, all pilots now book business.

The company needs to fix the system to follow their own rules. And they need consistency from the chief pilots office.

Maybe they could take a brake from enforcing uniform policy, catching expense account cheaters and writing the lines without the SIG and fix this.

nakazawa

When LA opened as a domicile, crews couldn't STAGE into all four of the co-terminal aerodromes (LAX, ONT, BUR, LGB). If a trip started in ONT, a crew member couldn't stage into ONT - only LAX. Since I was building the lines, I disputed EVERY ONT pairing - can't get to work - can't fly the trip. Jumpseat Admin - senior manager (BP) exclaimed - he wouldn't fix the system unless directed by somebody at the VP level. That's fine - trips remained disputed! Finally, FDX Legal authorized BUSINESS - that way crews could work around the jumpseat rice-bowl problem. That was FEB '02! If anybody has OLD SIG notes - it's there.

Also the two leg/two day commutes into ANC are a problem with the 14/15 day issue. BUSINESS was also authorized to take advantage of booking the first jumpseat - which doesn't end at your domicile, and then booking the second jumpseat the next day - that doesn't originate at your residence city. Authorization was by SF, who has retired.

It seems a lot of the agreements here are like folklore - not much written down.

Laughing_Jakal

Nak,

Thanks for your recent run at election, though you didn't win, we sure could use your expertise and corporate knowledge. I trust you are still doing this kind of work?

Cooter

This is BS--this guy should have been reported to an ACP/SCP--obvious abuse. I'm surprised that Jumpseats didn't raise the BS flag on a guy listing himself everyday.

Cooter

(Sorry about two consecutive posts but I don't know how to quote twice in the same post).

If we were ALL being professions-on-the-job, the company wouldn't have to waste time with the uniform slobs, and the ER cheaters. Amazing how much of a $hitstorm we bring on ourselves.

The whole jumpseat abuse probably would be cleaned up if it had pilot oversight instead of that bureaucracy they have running the show. I tried to book a staging JS online from Europe a couple of months ago and the system said my home location was not one of my staging cities. Tried to skype JSs to find out *** was going on--never could get anyone to answer the phone. After a few hours, I booked the JS via business--fortunately, there were seats available so no one was bumped, but upon arrival in MEM, I went to JSs with the problem. The system had my staging location as Cleveland, about 1000 miles away--no idea how that happened.

Overnitefr8

I don't think that is possible. Whenever I've tried to book a jump seat (for legitimate reasons) within 48 hours of a similar leg, I get a message saying you can't do it. Maybe you can with a business status.

FLMD11CAPT

It is indeed BS.....but for another reason than you describe. The J/S reservation system will not let you book a J/S "2 days prior or 1 day after" a similar booking. Example: If a pilot has a J/S reserved on the 1st of a month from SEA-ANC he is prevented by the reservation system from booking the same J/S on the 30th or 31st prior or the 2nd after. Soooo, the R-24 guy you highlight could not do what you claim he did.

Overnitefr8

Although the J/S people can override that. I've jumpseated home for the day, after a one day trip, just to have to go out the next night. They were able to give me the reservation for both nights. But I can't believe they would do that everynight for someone.

Jetjok

Sounds like you got reservations on two consecutive nights, but going two different ways, ie. coming and going.

JJ

Overnitefr8

Nope, meant I j/sed to MEM, did a one day trip (now I remember that it was a backend dh), came home, and then went back MEM the next night. Two flights within 48 hours from the same location back to MEM. If you try to book that on line, you get the message that you can't book two j/s within 48 hours from the same location. I called JSA and explained the situation and they booked me on the second flight.